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re: Could never imagine hurting one of my dogs
Posted on 2/26/19 at 10:02 am to FournetteForEver7
Posted on 2/26/19 at 10:02 am to FournetteForEver7
He would find his gun in the water and then an arse whipping until he jumped in the water to get away.
And then he'd find himself arrested.
And then he'd find himself arrested.
Posted on 2/26/19 at 10:03 am to DatNolaClap
That wasn’t the argument. I never said ok boy should gut shoot his dog.
My argument was where do you draw the line with animal “rights”.
His friends should’ve kicked his arse and got new friends.
However, crucify this guy and be prepared to be crucified.
My argument was where do you draw the line with animal “rights”.
His friends should’ve kicked his arse and got new friends.
However, crucify this guy and be prepared to be crucified.
Posted on 2/26/19 at 11:07 am to jimjackandjose
Like someone already said, obviously we're drawing the line at gut shooting your dog and leaving it to die because it doesnt hunt as well as you liked.
As for arguments (not saying they were your arguments but they did involve the "where do you draw the line?" question) brought up earlier pertaining to whats the difference between shooting a wild animal/farm animal and shooting your dog, well after you raised and went through the trouble of training a dog i would hope you'd have more compassion for it than a deer or a cow per se.
You may not see the line but I, along with alot of people in this thread think its pretty clear.
As for arguments (not saying they were your arguments but they did involve the "where do you draw the line?" question) brought up earlier pertaining to whats the difference between shooting a wild animal/farm animal and shooting your dog, well after you raised and went through the trouble of training a dog i would hope you'd have more compassion for it than a deer or a cow per se.
You may not see the line but I, along with alot of people in this thread think its pretty clear.
Posted on 2/27/19 at 10:48 am to texag7
shoot him in the stomach and let him die a slow death !
Posted on 2/27/19 at 4:47 pm to FournetteForEver7
I train dogs. Love dogs. Won't be without dogs. I would skull drag a sob if they did that in front of me.
That man is a boy in adult clothing doing childish boy things, throwing childish boy tantrums, with adult consequences.
And that sorry excuse for a boy is sorrier than chalky dog chit.
If the dog wouldn't hunt or do what he wanted, the owner, or "trainer" should know this: In dog training, it's ALWAYS the trainer's fault if the dog fails to perform. The problem is the human. Period.
Maybe a dog didn't have it in him in the 1st place to do what is asked of him: The owner should've identified that fact long before this and gave the dog away to a good home and started over with a dog capable of meeting his demands.
You don't ask a Chihuahua to bay hogs; you don't ask a pit bull to be a lapdog in dynamic environments where when they snap, as they so often do, the result is carnage. Whether it be problems with a "sit" command or problems with a dog not mauling a child's face off, the root of the problem always begins with the human. Key word is "root".
And I don't care if grandpa used to shoot his underperforming bird dogs or not, that doesn't make it right. At one time, grandpa also might have told a grown black man to drink at the black people fountain like a good "boy," or he may not have, but one thing is for sure: We definitely know more about training animals now than ever before, and grandpa was the problem. HE failed the dog, NOT the other way around.
That's why pro trainers will "wash" a dog out: They realize very quickly that dog doesn't have what it takes to perform at the level asked of him. It doesn't mean the dog can never hunt or work or be a good boy, it just means that the ROI gap is closing, and it's unfair to ask more of him than what he's capable of. He realizes that if he continues to push the dog further into training failure will occur, and when it does, the fault of that failure will fall squarely on the shoulders of the human.
Human life is obviously more important than a creature's life, but any human who would do such a thing is suspect to having complete and total disregard towards the value of any living THING'S life other than his own. That's some serial killer stuff right there. Does he run over turtles and microwave cats for fun too?
In this case, the argument for "human life value over animal life value " is null and void.
This guy has issues.
He is a criminal- a scourge to civil, developed society- and he ought to be treated as such. Period.
That man is a boy in adult clothing doing childish boy things, throwing childish boy tantrums, with adult consequences.
And that sorry excuse for a boy is sorrier than chalky dog chit.
If the dog wouldn't hunt or do what he wanted, the owner, or "trainer" should know this: In dog training, it's ALWAYS the trainer's fault if the dog fails to perform. The problem is the human. Period.
Maybe a dog didn't have it in him in the 1st place to do what is asked of him: The owner should've identified that fact long before this and gave the dog away to a good home and started over with a dog capable of meeting his demands.
You don't ask a Chihuahua to bay hogs; you don't ask a pit bull to be a lapdog in dynamic environments where when they snap, as they so often do, the result is carnage. Whether it be problems with a "sit" command or problems with a dog not mauling a child's face off, the root of the problem always begins with the human. Key word is "root".
And I don't care if grandpa used to shoot his underperforming bird dogs or not, that doesn't make it right. At one time, grandpa also might have told a grown black man to drink at the black people fountain like a good "boy," or he may not have, but one thing is for sure: We definitely know more about training animals now than ever before, and grandpa was the problem. HE failed the dog, NOT the other way around.
That's why pro trainers will "wash" a dog out: They realize very quickly that dog doesn't have what it takes to perform at the level asked of him. It doesn't mean the dog can never hunt or work or be a good boy, it just means that the ROI gap is closing, and it's unfair to ask more of him than what he's capable of. He realizes that if he continues to push the dog further into training failure will occur, and when it does, the fault of that failure will fall squarely on the shoulders of the human.
Human life is obviously more important than a creature's life, but any human who would do such a thing is suspect to having complete and total disregard towards the value of any living THING'S life other than his own. That's some serial killer stuff right there. Does he run over turtles and microwave cats for fun too?
In this case, the argument for "human life value over animal life value " is null and void.
This guy has issues.
He is a criminal- a scourge to civil, developed society- and he ought to be treated as such. Period.
Posted on 2/28/19 at 7:22 am to Bigbee Hills

This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 7:23 am
Posted on 2/28/19 at 5:36 pm to Bigbee Hills
Thank you for the correct perspective.
I'm 54 years old.....been hunting all of my life, since about 6.
There's several "hunters" posting in this thread that I consider unethical blowhards, and they would NEVER be welcome with me or my hunting groups.
Evil people.
And, cut the farm and ranch bullshite. I was raised on the largest cattle operation in north Louisiana. There's correct, humane ways to do things.
I'm 54 years old.....been hunting all of my life, since about 6.
There's several "hunters" posting in this thread that I consider unethical blowhards, and they would NEVER be welcome with me or my hunting groups.
Evil people.
And, cut the farm and ranch bullshite. I was raised on the largest cattle operation in north Louisiana. There's correct, humane ways to do things.
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