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Bringing dirt in around a tree: how to do it and not kill the tree (if possible)?
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:16 pm
My in-laws have a live oak tree (probably 40'-50' in diameter on their land that is currently in a hole about 20’ in dia and 1’ deep. What happened was the land around them was developed and their land flooded so to resolve this, the developer had to raise my in-laws land about 1’ to ensure proper drainage. So this tree is in the middle of their yard and it had a large hole around it. Is there any way to gradually add dirt to this hole to fill it in? I’ve heard that if you fill it in, the tree will die. Maybe an inch or ½” per year until it’s good? Or can you leave a smaller hole only around the trunk?
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:41 pm to poochie
Best to have an arborist look at it. Sounds like there is already fill in the root zone. Even gradually filling in the hole can eventually injure the tree. The roots get covered and decay. There are aeration techniques but effectiveness is debatable.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:56 pm to LSUengr
This happened 8-10 years ago and the tree is fine. Just trying to figure of how to fill the hole. May build a deck over it.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 4:03 pm to poochie
Talk to a landscape architect.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 4:03 pm to poochie
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40'-50' in diameter
Diameter or circumference?
Because a tree with 40’-50’ diameter would be the largest tree in history of trees.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 4:08 pm to Jack Daniel
drip line. probably 2'-3' dia trunk
Posted on 7/31/18 at 4:10 pm to poochie
Plant some ground cover around it such as Mexican daisies or vinca. It will eventually fill itself in while looking nice.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 4:17 pm to poochie
quote:
May build a deck over it.
Is deck code for covered mosquito pit
Posted on 7/31/18 at 4:25 pm to weadjust
it doesn't hold water, the dirt that was added turtle-backs around the tree and flows outward so it actually stays dry under the tree even after the strongest showers. i want to have something up to the trunk so we can use the tree for shade, a swing, etc...
Posted on 7/31/18 at 4:31 pm to poochie
40'-50' means 40 feet to 50 feet. 40"-50" means 40 inches to 50 inches, just for future reference. Big pet peeve of mine.
As to the question, I don't know.
As to the question, I don't know.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 4:33 pm to Homey the Clown
i know what ' and " mean. clearly i didn't mean the trunk was 40'-50'. i mean the drip line is 40' (feet) to 50' (feet).
Posted on 7/31/18 at 4:57 pm to Churchill
quote:
Plant some ground cover around it such as Mexican daisies or vinca. It will eventually fill itself in while looking nice.
Hostas will work well in that situation as they like growing in the shade and make pretty large leaves as they grow. That would fill in the area quick.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 6:35 pm to poochie
this is what i was told about adding dirt around a small young tree.
add no more the 1 1/2 - 2" of dirt at a time and allow at least a month before adding another 2" layer.
i was told the reason is you need to allow time for the roots to grow up shallow to the surface, if you bury the roots too deep the tend to have trouble getting rain water to the roots and it hurts the tree.
for a well established fully grown tree like yours, i would think its ok to simply fill in the hole level to the surrounding ground with no ill effects.
the rule of thumb is the root mass is equal to the umbrella branches you see above ground so anything you do around the base of that tree, short of damaging the bark layer, will have no affect on the roots spread out throughout the whole yard, they are the life blood of that tree being healthy.
for a tree of that age and size i wouldnt risk making a mistake and i suggest you take pictures and send them to someone at the LSU agricultural center and seek advice from the brainiacs there about this
add no more the 1 1/2 - 2" of dirt at a time and allow at least a month before adding another 2" layer.
i was told the reason is you need to allow time for the roots to grow up shallow to the surface, if you bury the roots too deep the tend to have trouble getting rain water to the roots and it hurts the tree.
for a well established fully grown tree like yours, i would think its ok to simply fill in the hole level to the surrounding ground with no ill effects.
the rule of thumb is the root mass is equal to the umbrella branches you see above ground so anything you do around the base of that tree, short of damaging the bark layer, will have no affect on the roots spread out throughout the whole yard, they are the life blood of that tree being healthy.
for a tree of that age and size i wouldnt risk making a mistake and i suggest you take pictures and send them to someone at the LSU agricultural center and seek advice from the brainiacs there about this
This post was edited on 7/31/18 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 7/31/18 at 7:39 pm to keakar
i had same problem- arborist said do NOT fill all at once - I did 2-3 inches(no more) for 1/2 around tree then next year the other half- planted monkey grass and looks beautiful 5 years later
Posted on 7/31/18 at 7:59 pm to poochie
Call an arborist or you could build a wall around it and create a tree well.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:27 pm to poochie
Sounds like a prime spot for a coon to hang out.
Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:21 am to Jj283
A coon under a live oak? Maybe a Pecan.
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