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Posted on 5/13/14 at 5:05 pm to AlxTgr
Posted on 5/13/14 at 5:45 pm to Fat Neck
I use 20 or 30 lb braid with a 30 lb flouro leader. I guess there's a greater possibility the flouro gets cut, but 30# is 30# and I'm going to have a difficult time breaking off no matter what.
I also tie an excessively long leader at first. Then I can tie multiple lures before the leader gets too short and have to re-tie another leader.
I also tie an excessively long leader at first. Then I can tie multiple lures before the leader gets too short and have to re-tie another leader.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 6:59 pm to Boats n Hose
Uni knot all day long
Posted on 5/13/14 at 7:12 pm to Grassy1
quote:
1. What knot is best for tying braids to a swivel, and what knot is best for tying braid to a hook?
I fish with braid only and I have never broken off with a simple improved clinch knot on swivel or directly to bait/hook. Yes palomar may be stronger for some of the bigger baits like topwaters and other hard plastics, but I still don't feel the need for it personally.
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2. When trout fishing, is best to use a leader or not? I have been, mainly to allow something to break off when getting hung up. (Sometimes fluoro, and sometimes mono.)
I don't use a leader when tying directly to swim baits, but always an ~18" leader when fishing topwater (braid gets tangled in the hooks) and obviously a Carolina type rig. We have a small spool of yo-zuri fluoro 20# that we use for all of our leaders. I've never had a problem with it.
This post was edited on 5/14/14 at 6:02 am
Posted on 5/13/14 at 7:14 pm to AlxTgr
I don't use braid under 60lbs because the lighter stuff tangles up too much. I use 20 lb fluoro leader and it does break instead of the main line. Straight to bait you better have gloves or a cleat handy. Last Coco covered everything knot wise.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 7:26 pm to The Last Coco
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Now if I am using heavy braid for offshore applications, I'll use a double-line palomar when tying direct, and will tie a bimini twist to create a loop and then a loop knot for my leader connection.
This.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 7:29 pm to Capt ST
Thank yall, Gentlemen.
I'm pretty okay tying a palomar.
I was just talking to someone over a beer or six, and he is pretty convinced that braid will cut itself using most knots other than palomar.
Didn't discuss a uni in particular. I'm going to have to look at the uni closely.
One other question:
Is there a distinct advantage/disadvantage to using a swivel or not when tying a leader to braid?
I'm pretty okay tying a palomar.
I was just talking to someone over a beer or six, and he is pretty convinced that braid will cut itself using most knots other than palomar.
Didn't discuss a uni in particular. I'm going to have to look at the uni closely.
One other question:
Is there a distinct advantage/disadvantage to using a swivel or not when tying a leader to braid?
Posted on 5/13/14 at 7:29 pm to Grassy1
Swivel is just one more thing a fish can see
Posted on 5/13/14 at 7:35 pm to Grassy1
quote:
Is there a distinct advantage/disadvantage to using a swivel or not when tying a leader to braid?
I use a swivel when fishing the beach with a carolina rig or a topwater, but other than that, a uni to uni is better. Like CBD said, a swivel is just something else for the fish to hone in on and swim away from. Also, a uni to uni will glide through the rod guides without any problems.
eta: I honestly DONT think it matters much until you're getting into some bigger fish that could do some damage. Swivel or not will still catch trout when they're schooled up. I haven't really noticed a difference in numbers when using either or.
This post was edited on 5/13/14 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 5/13/14 at 7:36 pm to CBDTigerFan
Yea... we tie a bunch of stuff to get the fish's attention...
(just for arguement's sake)
(just for arguement's sake)
Posted on 5/13/14 at 7:44 pm to Grassy1
They think the bait is chasing the swivel. Bonus.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 7:57 pm to AlxTgr
Knot directed at Alex, but am I thinking correctly that you (or I) can't tie a Palomar knot to something already tied to a line?
Example: If you tie a swivel to your main line, there's no way really to tie a your leader to the swivel using a Palomar since you have to loop the knot over the swivel, right?
Example: If you tie a swivel to your main line, there's no way really to tie a your leader to the swivel using a Palomar since you have to loop the knot over the swivel, right?
Posted on 5/13/14 at 7:59 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
I use a polymer (sp?) knot for everything.
Same here.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 8:00 pm to Grassy1
quote:
Example: If you tie a swivel to your main line, there's no way really to tie a your leader to the swivel using a Palomar since you have to loop the knot over the swivel, right?
no, you pass through the swivel and loop the knot over the lure
Posted on 5/13/14 at 8:00 pm to Grassy1
quote:
Example: If you tie a swivel to your main line, there's no way really to tie a your leader to the swivel using a Palomar since you have to loop the knot over the swivel, right?
Simple solution. Tie your leader to the swivel first.
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no, you pass through the swivel and loop the knot over the lure
Or this
This post was edited on 5/13/14 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 5/13/14 at 8:24 pm to PillageUrVillage
Improved cinch knot with 20 to 30 pound leader
30 lb power pro.
30 lb power pro.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 10:29 pm to Grassy1
Posting so I can come back and read this thread
Posted on 5/13/14 at 10:31 pm to TigerTatorTots
Posting so I can come back and make fun of you
Posted on 5/14/14 at 5:48 am to PapaPogey
Okay Gentlemen,
I'm going to keep using the Palomar for braid to swivel or braid to hook/bait.
I'm going to learn the Uni, which looks very easy for times when I just figure out how to tie a Palomar in a given situation (and I just want to be able to tie more knots.)
Here's a link describing the Uni for anyone that cares.
Uni-knot
And just fyi
Palomar-Knot
I'm going to keep using the Palomar for braid to swivel or braid to hook/bait.
I'm going to learn the Uni, which looks very easy for times when I just figure out how to tie a Palomar in a given situation (and I just want to be able to tie more knots.)
Here's a link describing the Uni for anyone that cares.
Uni-knot
And just fyi
Palomar-Knot
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