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re: Bob’s Bayou Black Marina will likely close on March 1st, 2019
Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:17 am to maisweh
Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:17 am to maisweh
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right. as a landowner, I give 0 shits if people fish my property. just stay a few hundred yards away when im duck hunting... like 300.. that's how far blinds are spaced apart.
maybe something simple like minimum distance during certain times of the year or not being able to spud down because then technically you would be trespassing... so that would solve the people duck hunting on privately held water bottoms issue.
Louisiana already has a law effectively preventing people from coming to close to you while duck hunting.
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:46 am to bluemoons
another question.. We used to lease land off of Minor's Canal in Houma. We had a damn across the tranos to keep the water from rushing out when cold fronts pushed through
So if this passes, would structures like this become illegal? Would I no longer be able to duck hunt after cold fronts because I can't get a boat to the pond?
So if this passes, would structures like this become illegal? Would I no longer be able to duck hunt after cold fronts because I can't get a boat to the pond?
Posted on 3/14/18 at 9:57 am to mylsuhat
Sounds to me like any sort of propulsion from a boat engine could theoretically cause damage to the water bottom because sediment would.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:01 am to Capt ST
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so what’s the point?
While this does have SOME implications for ponds, there is a bigger issue that some are not recognizing. See post on top of page 3 by mylsuhat. It's likely everything in that snap shot is curretly not navigable by law, with the exception of the largest canal, which is the Intercostal.
Much of that can be navigable in fact by medium to large boats without damage to water bottoms.
There is a point to this bill and it has the potential to HELP what is currently a messed up situation. It won't solve everything and there will be some give and take.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:17 am to Capt ST
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bass holes won’t be able to access the ponds without breakin the law anyway, so what’s the point?
pretty sure it means that I just can't run across with the big motor. If i'm trimmed up and using the trolling motor, I should be ok. Right?
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:24 am to mylsuhat
It's tough to say, but it's likely that the wording of this bill will need to be changed to accommodate the language in La. R.S. 14:97 re: obstruction of highways/waterway.
As it sits right now, I believe that the construction of a dam across a trenasse as you described would probably be obstruction of a waterway. In other words, you can own the water bottom, but you can't obstruct the waterway.
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As it sits right now, I believe that the construction of a dam across a trenasse as you described would probably be obstruction of a waterway. In other words, you can own the water bottom, but you can't obstruct the waterway.
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Would I no longer be able to duck hunt after cold fronts because I can't get a boat to the pond?
Welcome to the club
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Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:24 am to mylsuhat
I thought I read that structures built before March 2nd 2018 were ok.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:25 am to cdogwinn
You did, but IMO that's one of the biggest problems with the bill as it's currently written.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:31 am to AlxTgr
quote:If you support the law, you arent very bright
If you don't support this, you aren't very bright
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:33 am to bluemoons
quote:I agree. Don't create a law that makes more grey areas
You did, but IMO that's one of the biggest problems with the bill as it's currently written.
Who is going to keep track of the structures list?
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:39 am to lsupride87
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If you support the law, you arent very bright
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:39 am to mylsuhat
quote:Honestly, they need to say frick it and go Texas style, or keep it shitty as frick as is. I agree the in between they are trying to tiptoe will cause as many problems
I agree. Don't create a law that makes more grey areas
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:39 am to bayoudude
Yeayourite....was looking at the Office of State Lands website this morning and as you can see, not much is public. LA Office of State Lands
Not just Continental though...Lots of other owners down there Terrebonne Parish GIS
Personally, I think there is too much money and stroke tied up down there and passing through that launch for this to happen. Something is going on. Someone is in someone else's back pocket. If that launch closes, it won't be closed for long before someone else picks it up and the price doubles. It's the way of LA politics.
Not just Continental though...Lots of other owners down there Terrebonne Parish GIS
Personally, I think there is too much money and stroke tied up down there and passing through that launch for this to happen. Something is going on. Someone is in someone else's back pocket. If that launch closes, it won't be closed for long before someone else picks it up and the price doubles. It's the way of LA politics.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:40 am to AlxTgr
quote:I raise you this
AlxTgr
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:43 am to lsupride87
Man are you ever tone deaf
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:44 am to Dock Holiday
quote:
There is a point to this bill and it has the potential to HELP what is currently a messed up situation.
It's not that messed up of a situation. Simply put... People are trespassing on private property and want the property rights changed to make it legal.
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It won't solve everything and there will be some give and take.
Yeah, private land owners give access, get nothing in return and a bunch of fishermen take the fish and give nothing.
Great plan.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:53 am to Clyde Tipton
On another note if all these canals become public are the oil companies off the hook for erosion due to man made canals? And removal of said dams and structures may lead to increased erosion rates...
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:53 am to Clyde Tipton
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:02 am to bayoudude
I'm definitely not a lawyer but I don't see why previously built structures would have to be removed. I think putting the March 2nd date in their was their attempt to appease landowners who already have gates and other structures built. I do agree that how it's currently written will muddy the waters.
Posted on 3/14/18 at 11:06 am to AlxTgr
I always like to be contrarian in these threads.
As a fisherman, I get it. It would be nice to have access and fish wherever you can get your boat from a public launch.
As a landowner myself, and a guy who has had multiple duck leases I also respect private property rights.
In conclusion, as tough as this may be for most of y'all to swallow, you can't strip the rights of the minority to please the majority. The law is the law and you dance to the band that's playing.
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As a fisherman, I get it. It would be nice to have access and fish wherever you can get your boat from a public launch.
As a landowner myself, and a guy who has had multiple duck leases I also respect private property rights.
In conclusion, as tough as this may be for most of y'all to swallow, you can't strip the rights of the minority to please the majority. The law is the law and you dance to the band that's playing.
Now...
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