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re: Boat wreck at Smith Lake today - UPDATE three confirmed deaths
Posted on 4/17/25 at 2:09 pm to ElDawgHawg
Posted on 4/17/25 at 2:09 pm to ElDawgHawg
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Don't you love how its the Bass Boat guys that are always to blame.
110+ boat tournament on the lake and I guarantee every ramp on the lake was slam full. I have never understood why people do that. If I know there's a tournament on a lake, I'm 100% going somewhere else that day if not fishing the tournament. Why fish in a crowd, Alabama is SLAM FULL of lakes
so just because they have a tournament on the lake i want to fish i need to go elsewhere, i think not, tournament guys think they own public water.
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 2:15 pm to GooDat
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Don't you love how its the Bass Boat guys that are always to blame
take the crying to a thread that isn't literally about a bass boat guy killing 3 innocent people
Totally missed my point. Listen to the David Kilgore interview. He said he saw the boat and first thing he said was "that boat is in a bad spot"
Posted on 4/17/25 at 2:27 pm to ElDawgHawg
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Totally missed my point. Listen to the David Kilgore interview. He said he saw the boat and first thing he said was "that boat is in a bad spot"
A bad spot =/= an illegal spot.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 2:35 pm to ElDawgHawg
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He said he saw the boat and first thing he said was "that boat is in a bad spot"
I'm not sure why you can't comprehend this. Bad spot or good spot is irreverent, the operator of the bass boat has a legal obligation to not hit him. He failed his obligation and at the very least will be a broke bitch for the rest of his life after he does his jail time.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 2:44 pm to ElDawgHawg
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NO... but it sounds like he could have used better judgement and maybe delayed the trip an hour or two until visibility was better.
A lot of conjecture here. Take it from someone who did it full time for over 20 years. It’s never that simple.
The fog could’ve been patchy or not that dangerous in that area. Once again, you do not know the details of what happens yet. Sometimes you start out with good conditions and they deteriorate. You make adjustments. You don’t even know where this guy was fishing or if he was actually fishing or moving at this point. You’re just making an argument out of something for the point of arguing.
A post from earlier that morning.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 2:48 pm to Lonnie Utah
115 boats and the PRO GUIDE puts his boat and his clients in a bad spot in the fog.
TO BE CLEAR: I'm not excusing the reckless driving .... they should have never been running above idle speed
TO BE CLEAR: I'm not excusing the reckless driving .... they should have never been running above idle speed
Posted on 4/17/25 at 3:18 pm to ElDawgHawg
I don’t check a damn tournament schedule to go fish. I go when the weather is right and I don’t have a ton of shite to do. That is very rare these days.
If the weather is right and the fish are biting, water is going to be packed with weekend warriors. You’d think they’d be way more dangerous than the “professionals”.
If the weather is right and the fish are biting, water is going to be packed with weekend warriors. You’d think they’d be way more dangerous than the “professionals”.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 3:30 pm to GooDat
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I'm not sure why you can't comprehend this. Bad spot or good spot is irreverent, the operator of the bass boat has a legal obligation to not hit him.
I would agree. You have some type of obligation not to overdrive your safe stopping distance. In heavy fog that might be 30 feet. In light fog it might be 1/4 mile. Clear blue sky it might be miles.
Not sure how anyone can be arguing anything differently. Pure common sense.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 4:32 pm to ElDawgHawg
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115 boats and the PRO GUIDE puts his boat and his clients in a bad spot in the fog.
Nobody will take you seriously if you continue with this stupid rhetoric.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 4:50 pm to ElDawgHawg
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115 boats and the PRO GUIDE puts his boat and his clients in a bad spot in the fog.
Bad spot based on what? One person's opinion? A person that happens to have a platform because they got a microphone shoved in their face? AND if it was such a bad spot (and they were getting buzzed by bass boats), why did the PRO GUIDE not move to a safer area?
The bottom line is this, if you hit a stationary (or slowly moving) object with your boat because you can't see it or you're going too fast, it's your fault. (This assumes it's daytime and not night where something might be unlit.)
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:18 pm to GooDat
Was one boat anchored?? Were both moving?? What directions were they moving??
Posted on 4/17/25 at 7:31 pm to Lonnie Utah
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Bad spot based on what?
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A person that happens to have a platform because they got a microphone shoved in their face? AND if it was such a bad spot (and they were getting buzzed by bass boats), why did the PRO GUIDE not move to a safer area?
You answered your own question.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:31 pm to Lonnie Utah
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A bad spot =/= an illegal spot.
Doesn’t really matter if you’re fricking dead
Posted on 4/18/25 at 11:10 am to Basinhunterfisher
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so just because they have a tournament on the lake i want to fish i need to go elsewhere, i think not, tournament guys think they own public water.
For me, it’s a matter of self preservation not whether I’m allowed to fish the area or not.
I’ve seen the start of a smallish redfish tournament. Maybe 20 boats, mostly flats skiffs, some with more power than needed.
The start was a sight to see, more like the start of a drag race than anything related to fishing.
No way did I want to be anywhere between the launch and where those boats wanted to go. I simply hung around to watch the show then headed out after everything settled.
I’m not saying you can’t fish a place holding a tournament, it’s a matter of if you want to.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 11:42 am to SCwTiger
Not saying that this is how it happened, but if you are racing to win a tournament prize and flying across the water in variable hazy and foggy conditions while monitoring your position in a curving channel by means of GPS due to variable visibility, It is difficult to take your eyes off of the GPS long enough to look up and see an unmarked hazard like the Edmund Fitzgerald sitting broadside in your path.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 12:21 pm to FutureMikeVIII
For everyone listening to David Kilgore, would you say this boat (arrow) is in a bad or dangerous spot?
Because that is approximately where the boat that got hit was fishing. The 22 year old kid tried to cut around that point, probably looking at his electronics, and t-boned them. I don’t think he realized there was.a boat there until he launched over and through the other boat.
You can bet your arse that FLW and FLW fishermen are circling the wagons and trying to lay blame anywhere but themselves.
If that is truly a dangerous place to be, it is a scary indictment of how some bass fishermen think and operate their vessels. The fact their were two different high speed collisions, where a tournament boat ran into a non-tournament boat, on each of the major trails on the same day is just terrifying. And then to hear the winner of the Smith Lake tournament imply it was the victims’ fault was just infuriating.
Because that is approximately where the boat that got hit was fishing. The 22 year old kid tried to cut around that point, probably looking at his electronics, and t-boned them. I don’t think he realized there was.a boat there until he launched over and through the other boat.
You can bet your arse that FLW and FLW fishermen are circling the wagons and trying to lay blame anywhere but themselves.
If that is truly a dangerous place to be, it is a scary indictment of how some bass fishermen think and operate their vessels. The fact their were two different high speed collisions, where a tournament boat ran into a non-tournament boat, on each of the major trails on the same day is just terrifying. And then to hear the winner of the Smith Lake tournament imply it was the victims’ fault was just infuriating.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:01 pm to ImaObserver
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Not saying that this is how it happened, but if you are racing to win a tournament prize and flying across the water in variable hazy and foggy conditions while monitoring your position in a curving channel by means of GPS due to variable visibility, It is difficult to take your eyes off of the GPS long enough to look up and see an unmarked hazard like the Edmund Fitzgerald sitting broadside in your path.
Been keeping up with this tragedy that should not have happened.
If you are going at speed in the fog and can't see but a short distance, you should NOT be going at speed.
I have not read this entire thread, but I still cannot see why anyone was traveling on that lake at speed and you can't see where you are going.
Adjust and adapt your fishing strategy to what Mother Nature has dealt. Especially on an open lake with other people expected to be on it.
I do not have blind faith in electronics. If we did the weatherman would be 100% right when it less than 50%.
The tournament should have some liability for allowing these NASCAR boats to hit the open water on a public lake with limited visibility. Granted that the individual is the main culprit who should also understand the situation and not be going full speed when you can't see
Posted on 4/18/25 at 8:48 pm to captdalton
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You can bet your arse that FLW and FLW fishermen are circling the wagons and trying to lay blame anywhere but themselves
That’s exactly what they, and some in this thread, are doing. That kid was going too fast to see a stationary boat, period. If you can’t see around a curve, slow the frick down before you get there. There is no excuse at all for what happened. It isn’t a ‘shite happens’ kind of thing. Slow the frick down and keep your head up and watching where you are going. It’s common sense. Stop making excuses. Three people are dead because someone didn’t use common sense and was more worried about ‘getting to THEIR spot’. Now they have to live with that for rest of their life.
This post was edited on 4/18/25 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 4/18/25 at 11:44 pm to WillFerrellisking
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Also I'm getting the curve info from an angler who fished the tournament and seen guide boat in that area in a curve and knew exactly where wreck happened once he heard news.
Completely lying.
The accident happened on the end of a point. You are a shitty alter using this to increase post counts.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 11:54 pm to captdalton
You are giving me more credit than I deserve!
I just quoted an interview from David Kilgore on that post.
Look capt, I have zero problem with you or any other poster disagreeing with me as I disagree with you and posters making all bass boat owners look like savages.
I just quoted an interview from David Kilgore on that post.
Look capt, I have zero problem with you or any other poster disagreeing with me as I disagree with you and posters making all bass boat owners look like savages.
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