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Bleeding hearts complain about landowner killing mountain lion
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:31 am
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:31 am
OF course, it's in California. I would have killed it, buried it, and shut up. If it was their livestock being killed, they would understand...maybe. LINK
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:37 am to BFIV
Yes.
Shoot
Shovel
Shutup
Shoot
Shovel
Shutup
Posted on 2/12/19 at 10:40 am to BFIV
My land and my rights
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 10:42 am
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:27 am to BFIV
He should say that he identifies as a female mountain lion and was just performing a late term abortion on his cub.
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 11:28 am
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:52 am to BFIV
The mountain lion was just doing "the Green New Deal's" work.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:48 pm to BFIV
I'll never support nut-job animal activists. And, I certainly think it's ok to kill predators as long as it's regulated and there are viable populations of them.
But, when it comes to protected animals that have dwindling populations - I'd rather have mountain lions and sort out how to pay for a few sheep every year. I don't know the situation in CA, and I don't want to get into a debate about if there's too many mountain lions. I'm just saying there's a balance.
But, when it comes to protected animals that have dwindling populations - I'd rather have mountain lions and sort out how to pay for a few sheep every year. I don't know the situation in CA, and I don't want to get into a debate about if there's too many mountain lions. I'm just saying there's a balance.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 12:51 pm to BFIV
Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:02 pm to BFIV
I would have had it mounted
Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:21 pm to BFIV
Yep. None of those types have livestock and raise them for their livelihood so they have no clue what losing one calf means to a farmer as far as income.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 2:34 pm to BFIV
Cook some rice
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:52 pm to BFIV
I personally would never shoot a mountain lion. Parks and wildlife have done studies on mountain lion kill sites in West Texas and out of over 200 kills they have yet to find a single calf or cow. These predators are very rare and have been hunted to less than 10% of their native populations - I'm a lifelong hunter but I have no desire to kill such a rare and majestic animal
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:08 pm to MC5601
quote:
studies on mountain lion kill sites in West Texas and out of over 200 kills they have yet to find a single calf or cow.
Well, the link was about one California sheep farmer losing 3 head of sheep to the same cat three nights in a row. Apples to oranges. Cats not only kill for survival. They also kill for sport. If you've had a house cat or barnyard cat, you would know this because of all the little "gifts" they leave for you at the door or porch.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:10 pm to Teague
quote:
I'd rather have mountain lions and sort out how to pay for a few sheep every year.
True story:
Around 2000, a woman training for a marathon was attacked and killed by a female mountain lion in the San Pablo Hills above Oakland, CA. She was very slight and running, so the theory was that the mountain lion saw her as prey.
I can't remember how the mountain lion was killed - whether it was shot over the woman's body or tracked and killed. But after the lion was killed, three cubs were discovered. Now here's the really fricked up part ...
A fundraiser generated about $30,000 in less than a week for the cubs. Nobody seemed particularly concerned about the woman's children.
I'm not trying to compare humans to sheep, and I'm not calling g for the eradication of mountain lions, but sometimes people's priorities are fricked up.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:15 pm to MC5601
quote:Ranchers dont call in parks and wildlife after killing the mountain lion? You dont say.
Parks and wildlife have done studies on mountain lion kill sites in West Texas and out of over 200 kills they have yet to find a single calf or cow. These predators are very rare and have been hunted to less than 10% of their native populations - I
If you think these apex predators dont take the easy pickings of calves you are fooling yourself.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 4:38 pm to Teague
quote:
But, when it comes to protected animals that have dwindling populations - I'd rather have mountain lions and sort out how to pay for a few sheep every year.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 5:36 pm to MC5601
quote:
Parks and wildlife have done studies on mountain lion kill sites in West Texas and out of over 200 kills they have yet to find a single calf or cow. These predators are very rare and have been hunted to less than 10% of their native populations
CA is not west Texas.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:13 pm to Teague
Aren’t they protected because of CA anti-hunting laws not due to population?
Rinella said they’re still killing the same number of lions just now the govt is paying people to do it instead of hunters paying to hunt them.
Rinella said they’re still killing the same number of lions just now the govt is paying people to do it instead of hunters paying to hunt them.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:19 pm to Teague
LINK
From CA wildlife.gov
Mountain lions are not threatened nor endangered in California. In fact, the lion population is relatively high in California and their numbers appear to be stable. Mountain lions are legally classified as "specially protected species". This has nothing to do with their relative abundance and does not imply that they are rare.
With the passage of Proposition 117 in 1990, mountain lions became a "specially protected species," making mountain lion hunting illegal in California. This status and other statutes prohibit the California Department of Fish and Wildlife from recommending a hunting season for lions, and it is illegal to take, injure, possess, transport, import, or sell any mountain lion or part of a mountain lion. Mountain lions may be killed only 1) if a depredation permit is issued to take a specific lion killing livestock or pets; 2) to preserve public safety; or 3) to protect listed bighorn sheep.
From CA wildlife.gov
Mountain lions are not threatened nor endangered in California. In fact, the lion population is relatively high in California and their numbers appear to be stable. Mountain lions are legally classified as "specially protected species". This has nothing to do with their relative abundance and does not imply that they are rare.
With the passage of Proposition 117 in 1990, mountain lions became a "specially protected species," making mountain lion hunting illegal in California. This status and other statutes prohibit the California Department of Fish and Wildlife from recommending a hunting season for lions, and it is illegal to take, injure, possess, transport, import, or sell any mountain lion or part of a mountain lion. Mountain lions may be killed only 1) if a depredation permit is issued to take a specific lion killing livestock or pets; 2) to preserve public safety; or 3) to protect listed bighorn sheep.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 8:44 pm to MC5601
Nothing rare about a mountain lion.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 5:19 pm to BFIV
Not much different than having property down here with large waters(ponds or whatever)and having a large or nuisance alligator.
I'd kill that sucker and not say anything.
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