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re: Bass fisherman indicated after deaths on Lake Smith during tournament
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:23 am to TutHillTiger
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:23 am to TutHillTiger
From that video he had to be distracted, there was 200 yards of open water on each side of the CC and he hit them dead center.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:23 am to AwgustaDawg
quote:This is what I think.
He was not paying attention. Or was blind.
quote:I really don't know what he would be doing that for unless heading to a waypoint, but even then, one really only needs to glance at it from time to time. That incident looked like a long time to not be looking forward.
I would bet he was watching a graph
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:54 am to AwgustaDawg
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The tournament organizers are also going to wind up paying a bunch or going out of business
From the article...
quote:
The lawsuits allege that the tournament officials encouraged boaters to race to their fishing spots at excessive rates of speed and in dangerous and hazardous conditions with no safety plan in place.
A boater should be in control of his boat no matter how badly or quickly he wants to get to his next fishing spot. This kind of finger pointing is ridiculous. Bass tournaments with similar formats were happening injury free every week until this idiot decided to go 67 without looking where he was going.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 12:28 pm to dat yat
I believe the tournament owner will be hard pressed to get eliminated from this suit. Also bet they has some culpability with the speed issue.
Settlement is their best course of action because discovery is going to sink them.
Settlement is their best course of action because discovery is going to sink them.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 3:10 pm to KemoSabe65
quote:I just don't see it.
I believe the tournament owner will be hard pressed to get eliminated from this suit. Also bet they has some culpability with the speed issue.
quote:What do you think will come out?
discovery is going to sink them.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 3:29 pm to AlxTgr
Years of races will prove the tournament /directors knew or should’ve know of careless or reckless driving. I bet you can find YouTube vids showing typical bass tournament reckless driving. Play those for a jury. Add the TV screens impeding/obstructing drivers vision and I think they get hammered by a jury.
Disclaimer: I ain’t no Esquire
Disclaimer: I ain’t no Esquire
Posted on 10/7/25 at 3:50 pm to KemoSabe65
quote:I have no idea what you mean by this.
Years of races will prove the tournament /directors knew or should’ve know of careless or reckless driving.
quote:maybe?
I bet you can find YouTube vids showing typical bass tournament reckless driving.
quote:I would think the organization would get out on summary judgment before the case ever went to a jury. What would the basis for liability be?
Play those for a jury. Add the TV screens impeding/obstructing drivers vision and I think they get hammered by a jury.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 5:03 pm to AlxTgr
Tact acceptance ?
Blind eye?
Lack of control?
Blind eye?
Lack of control?
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:22 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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It's surprising it doesn't happen more often with all the distractions available to mariners now.
Years ago, I was fishing at the mouth of a short dead-end canal south of the IC about half way to Lake Theriot. I heard a boat screaming arse down headed my way. My fishing buddy yells, "FUUUUUUCKKK!" just as the dumbass boater tries to right-turn right into where we were -- damn near Flint Davis'd us.
Fortunately, the driver saw us at the last minute and cut the wheel, ended up halfway up the bank. His partner was thrown over the boat and landed in soft mud.
This MFer starts yelling at me for fishing in the boating lane. I told him to look around, the canal is so short, had he not avoided my boat and ended up where he was, he would have full-speed slammed into row of trees about 100' away.
His partner yells at him something like, "You turned in the wrong canal you drunk fricker!"
We helped pull them back into the water, luckily, he had lost most of his speed by the time he hit the bank. Turns out, they were both drunk and crossed up and lost. I wanted to leave their asses hi and dry, but I was taught to never leave a boater in duress. My buddy wanted to drive their boat back, but they wouldn't have it. They cranked up and took off. Boat, a 20' Blazer was pretty banged up.
We fished a couple of more hours trying to let the adrenaline drain work out of our systems. Got back to Bob's marina and loaded up. Was about to pull out, just in time to see Green Jeans show up towing the blazer with both guys sitting in green jeans boat. Both in cuffs.
Apparently, green jeans found them on the water beating each other's asses.
Anyway, don't fricking drive like a lunatic.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:38 am to TutHillTiger
I hate that the video has made it on to the internet, but I guess it was inevitable.
My uncle is the fisherman on the front of the boat in the recorded video. He’s been pretty messed up since having to witness it and try and render first aid to the guys who were hit. And he was a homicide detective for Atlanta PD for 20 years so he’s seen some grotesque stuff over the years. He managed to get two of the guys out of the water and dove multiple times trying to get to the third victim. Just a messed up situation all around
My uncle is the fisherman on the front of the boat in the recorded video. He’s been pretty messed up since having to witness it and try and render first aid to the guys who were hit. And he was a homicide detective for Atlanta PD for 20 years so he’s seen some grotesque stuff over the years. He managed to get two of the guys out of the water and dove multiple times trying to get to the third victim. Just a messed up situation all around
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 9:47 am
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:26 am to baldona
quote:67 on water is hauling fricking arse
He was going about 67mph (not THAT fast for a bass boat I know but very fast still)
Downvote away but wouldn’t be a terrible thing to out a 50 mph speed limit on waterways in areas of certain popularity
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 10:30 am
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:39 am to lsupride87
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67 on water is hauling fricking arse Yes boats can go faster but that’s moving on water
Downvote away but wouldn’t be a terrible thing to out a 50 mph speed limit on waterways in areas of certain populari
Did I not say that? Its not like he was going as fast as any boat out there, that WAS my point. That IS the truth. There's boats pushing 100mph. Freeman is advertising 42 ft boats going over 70.
ETA: I don't know this lake, but there's plenty of lakes that routinely have cigar boats going 100+.
The guy is guilty. But my point is while that is fast, guys are going nearly 2X that speed all the time.
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 10:40 am
Posted on 10/8/25 at 10:42 am to lsupride87
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67 is hauling arse on water.
Yes it is…which begs the question. If he were running 55 would this have still happened?
Hard to say but the investigators have stated speed wasn’t a contributing factor.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:58 am to geauxbrown
In my masters upgrade class we had to review the duck boat sinking on lake Hamilton. Investigators Always look for the Primary cause and work any other causes into the report.
Duckboat sank due to a sleeve coming off the drive shaft allowing water intrusion. Bilge pump was defective and couldn’t evacuate enough water to save boat.
Distracted driving IS the primary cause of this crash.
Speed would be a secondary cause, out driving his capabilities.
Last imo would be the mentality that since everyone drives wot it is/was an acceptable practice.
Entry fees for tournaments will be increasing to pay for the increased premiums organizers are about to pay.
Duckboat sank due to a sleeve coming off the drive shaft allowing water intrusion. Bilge pump was defective and couldn’t evacuate enough water to save boat.
Distracted driving IS the primary cause of this crash.
Speed would be a secondary cause, out driving his capabilities.
Last imo would be the mentality that since everyone drives wot it is/was an acceptable practice.
Entry fees for tournaments will be increasing to pay for the increased premiums organizers are about to pay.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:15 pm to KemoSabe65
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Entry fees for tournaments will be increasing to pay for the increased premiums organizers are about to pay
Yes sir.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:46 pm to lsupride87
Wouldn’t change a thing.
My bet is he was trying to shortcut a blind corner and was worried about getting too shallow. Paying too much attention to mapping and not enough to conditions/boat traffic. A pilot would call this losing SA (situal awareness)
Nonetheless three men are dead for the young mans careless actions.
And FWIW I can speak a bit of speed on the water as my Cat/250 combo is capable of 79 (81 with a better driver) so I have a little experience with this.
Not to mention a collision at 35 is probably just as likely to have nearly the same effect.
My bet is he was trying to shortcut a blind corner and was worried about getting too shallow. Paying too much attention to mapping and not enough to conditions/boat traffic. A pilot would call this losing SA (situal awareness)
Nonetheless three men are dead for the young mans careless actions.
And FWIW I can speak a bit of speed on the water as my Cat/250 combo is capable of 79 (81 with a better driver) so I have a little experience with this.
Not to mention a collision at 35 is probably just as likely to have nearly the same effect.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:55 pm to htcthc321
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He’s been pretty messed up since having to witness it and try and render first aid to the guys who were hit.
I’m very sorry he had to witness that.
God bless him for trying to do what he could for the injured/deceased
Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:47 pm to TutHillTiger
Im honestly surprised the driver of the boat that hit the others survived that.
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