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re: Baiting up a small dove field?

Posted on 7/20/23 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
21412 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

his is not correct. You can hunt over top sown wheat. You do not have to disk it under.


I don't give a shite what the MS wildlife site says. You get caught by a federal game warden hunting over plowed ground and the wheat isn't covered you're going in front of a federal judge. I had a couple of buddies found this out the hard way. Cost them a few thousand dollars and lost their guns and hunting privileges for a year.
Posted by Insurancerebel
Madison
Member since Aug 2021
2296 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 3:09 pm to
I believe you are missing some key wording in the federal laws.
*(The Fish and
Wildlife Service will not make a distinction between agricultural fields planted with the intent to
gather a crop and those planted without such intent provided the planting is carried out in a
manner consistent with the recommendations of State Extension Specialists).

"A normal agricultural
operation includes normal agricultural plantings, harvestings, or post-harvest manipulations as well as
other normal agricultural practices if they are conducted in accordance with recommendations of State
Extension Specialists of the Cooperative State Research, Education, and Extension Service.


What LA says is normal ag practices may differ than MS.

For our winter wheat for cattle, we disc the ground, and then the truck or grain cart spreads the wheat. It is not covered typically.

Same for wildlife food plots, have the time I drag a old fence post over my food plots, it doesnt cover for shite.

I am guessing you do not think you can flood millet fields and duck hunt them either?


Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
8858 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

Wolfmanjack
Mister green jeans loves him some baited dove fields!


frick green jeans. You really think you're going to deplete the population of doves sitting in a 100 degree bean field popping 3 doves a week?

I won't lie I killed 2 limits in a day shooting off the power lines years ago. frick sitting in a bean field. I'm after meat

The price of shells dictate you should get meat. And if you want to wear green jeans you better fine someone for over the limit, not BS
This post was edited on 7/20/23 at 7:36 pm
Posted by Out da box
Member since Feb 2018
602 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 8:53 pm to
This is illegal.. you can plant and grow
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
26914 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 8:15 am to
I have a field of sunflower and millet. According to MDWLFP private land agent, I can bush hog all that down and 10 days prior to the opener I can disk that and sow wheat.

I can not go over the recommended amount (I think 90lbs per acre) and I can not have any wheat piled up.
This post was edited on 7/21/23 at 8:22 am
Posted by MarsellusWallace
504
Member since Apr 2022
486 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 9:05 am to
Can a warden come on your property without a search warrant?

Are there any 4th amendment issues here?
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
26914 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 9:48 am to
quote:

Can a warden come on your property without a search warrant?


Yes
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
1362 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 9:50 am to
You seem upset. I'm guessing you got caught doing something you weren't supposed to before.
Posted by Sparty3131
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2019
784 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 9:52 am to
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
8858 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 10:57 am to
quote:

I'm guessing you got caught doing something you weren't supposed to before.


Never got caught. If I go dove hunting I'm coming back with a limit. I'm not sitting in a field hoping they pass to maybe kill 2 or 3. That's dumb imo. Doves love power lines.
This post was edited on 7/21/23 at 10:58 am
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
39710 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 11:20 am to
I know one thing.

We ain't ever having an OB Dove Hunt. Y'all some outlaws.

Do it right. Plant in the spring, mow strips in Mid August. Kill doves legally.
Posted by EagleEye99
Member since Dec 2017
2875 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 11:37 am to
quote:

Aerial or topsowing of small grains without covering the seed is not a recommended practice by the UGA Cooperative Extension Service. Dove hunting over a field planted by top sowing is illegal. Normal plantings do not involve placement of grains in piles or other concentrations

The above is from GA regs. All states surrounding us allow top sowing GA does allow top sowing of cotton/soybean fields prior to defoliation, but that is pretty much only exception.

We do keep several large bait strips maintained through summer where we feed black oil sunflowers or other stuff that has been mentioned prior to season and maturity of millet/sunflowers. We till bait strips under per the 10 day rule prior to season and it seems to work. Key is getting the maturity of whatever has been planted, and then burning/bush hogging strips to coincide with early season opener to keep the doves there for a few good shoots.
This post was edited on 7/21/23 at 11:40 am
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
6101 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 2:16 pm to
THIS!!! especially the cool water. You'll have plenty of doves if you follow this advice.
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