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ATF wait times

Posted on 6/16/16 at 8:54 am
Posted by olemissfan26
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Posted on 6/16/16 at 8:54 am
A friend of mine is about to start the process of purchasing a suppressor and starting a new AR build. Do any of y'all have an idea of how long the wait times are for a suppressor and a stamped lower at the moment? Or do you have a link that gives accurate data?
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:02 am to
I've been telling my trust clients to expect 5-6 months. It was around 4, but we've seen a lot of panic buying with 41P, and now we'll see even more with Orlando.
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 9:03 am
Posted by jdavid1
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:03 am to
I filed for my suppressor on January 5th and got the stamp back Tuesday. so a little over 5 months on the suppressors. It appears the SBRs are around 4 months.


Here is a link that is pretty accurate on the wait times.
NFA Tracker
Posted by olemissfan26
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:06 am to
Yeah I figured there would be a surge with 41P about to go through and it would add some time. Thanks for quick response
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:20 am to
The most recent stamp came in 5/19 and the forms were sent in the first week of December. So about five and half months. I have another one out that seems to be moving a lot faster.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:26 am to
mine was submitted 12/29 and approved 6/8
NFA tracker is pretty useful as are the stats on silencer shops website

so...5 to 6 months
Posted by Theboot32
Member since Jan 2016
2435 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 9:43 am to
quote:

a lot of panic buying with 41P


whats 41P?
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:07 am to
quote:


whats 41P?


41P/41F is a collection of new regulations affecting NFA Trust settlors/trustees. Basically, starting July 13, there will be two major changes for trust applicants. They'll have to submit a photo, fingerprint, and a new form (5320.23) for each "responsible person" in the trust. These are Trustees and Settlors.

The second major change involves a notification requirement to the CLEO of your parish. As it reads now, all this requires is a forwarding of the Form 4/Form 1, + the 5320.23 forms for each responsible person, to the sheriff or DA of your parish.

eta: It's really not as big of a deal as some are making it out to be (at least as it reads now). A trust is still the best way to go about purchasing and owning Class III items.
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 10:11 am
Posted by Propagandalf
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:11 am to
quote:

NFA tracker is pretty useful as are the stats on silencer shops website


OP, the tracking websites can be a good indicator if you remember that it only tracks one examiner. Some are faster than others, it really depends on who you get. So, just because someone got a stamp back after 5 months on one of these tracking websites doesn't mean it's not totally possible that yours could take 6 months. You could be unlucky and draw an examiner that is really slow. Just remember NFA is a waiting game and requires patience. Also, remember the dealer you get it from doesn't know anything about when it is coming back approved until it shows up. The ATF doesn't give any details to any party involved about "how much longer it's going to be". So, save the weekly phone calls at the 4 month point. The dealer is as anxious to get it out of his inventory as you are to put it on your gun.
Posted by Papercutninja
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Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:16 am to
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Posted by CP3
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Member since Sep 2009
7401 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:44 am to
Anyone known where I can find an Obsidian or Dead Air 45 can in stock
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 10:50 am
Posted by ChatRabbit77
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Member since May 2013
5860 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:48 am to
Finding them in stock isn't that huge of a problem. Give me a couple of days. The only problem is finding it below $700 for the Obsidian.
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
7401 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:51 am to
Obsidian is preferred I just can't find it anywhere.

quote:

$700

Would be legit. I was expecting to spend $850
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38655 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:02 am to
quote:

the tracking websites can be a good indicator if you remember that it only tracks one examiner


NFAtracker.com tracks user-submitted info on submission dates, form types, and approval dates...you can add the name of the examiner(s) but that's irrelevant to to the data being tracked. you can sort by examiner but it tracks all forms submitted not just those by an specific examiner at ATF

Posted by Propagandalf
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2010
2528 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:18 am to
Right, my point seeing that NFAtracker says a guy got an approval after 5 months just means one examiner of many approved a form at 5 months. Another examiner could be at 5.25 months, another at 5.5 months, etc. etc.

ETA: if your examiner is listed on there with approvals it is extremely relevant info to tracking your form because you can get a better feel of where that specific person is.
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 11:21 am
Posted by GI_BOE
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2016
151 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 4:45 pm to
shite for 850 just order it from Rugged
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
10110 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 5:56 pm to
Form 3 then Form 4. Thats no fun.

I am waiting until Silencer Shop gets their shite together for this 41F. Electronic fingerprints and phone app for photos. Do this once and make a purchase once every 2 years and you're good. Even a series of Forms 1s extends it another 2 years.
Posted by Outlast101
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
46 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 6:51 pm to
It's on silencershop right now.

LINK
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66380 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

Do this once and make a purchase once every 2 years and you're good. Even a series of Forms 1s extends it another 2 years.


They axed this, allegedly. Be prepared to have to do the process every time. I'm taking everyone off my trust
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
10110 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 7:10 pm to
I don't think it can be modified once its been added to the Register. Not without going through the same process all over again.

I thought about stripping mine down, but wife needs to be on it and so does a Guarantor trustee. I guess 3 is better than what it was, but 1 sounds a lot better.
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