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re: Are diesels worth it if you don't haul heavy loads frequently?
Posted on 8/16/19 at 5:25 pm to GeauxTime9
Posted on 8/16/19 at 5:25 pm to GeauxTime9
Why don’t you buy a gas burner if you’re admitting to not pulling much?
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 5:44 pm to GeauxTime9
Nope
Posted on 8/16/19 at 6:15 pm to Barneyrb
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my oil changes run $72 at the dealer.
How is this possible? I change my own oil in my excursion and its min $60
Posted on 8/16/19 at 7:00 pm to rattlebucket
I paid 52k for my ‘12 F250, avg kbb value has my truck at 34k now. That’s winning.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 7:19 pm to Chad504boy
Yeah, people are dramatically underestimating the resale on a diesel.
It helps that new diesels are $$$, but in general, diesels will return a good % on resale.
In demand new = in demand used.
It helps that new diesels are $$$, but in general, diesels will return a good % on resale.
In demand new = in demand used.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 7:32 pm to GeauxTime9
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F250
Here's a short video on the F250 vs. a Chevy/GMC 2500
Useful video when doing comparisons between the two.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 8:15 pm to Arkapigdiesel
I know the guy that made that video. Boonville and into Perry County Indiana are some country people for sure. I lived not too far from that area for about 2 years when I got voluntold by the Army to go on a recruiting stint.
ETA Crawford county also. Like I said earlier, if you dont tow, get a gasser. I love my diesel but I tow a lot of weight sometimes.
ETA Crawford county also. Like I said earlier, if you dont tow, get a gasser. I love my diesel but I tow a lot of weight sometimes.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:54 pm to rattlebucket
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How is this possible? I change my own oil in my excursion and its min $60
4 gallons of synthetic is/used to run 85 + filter + additives(if you use them)
I did my own changes on my excursion and it was about 120.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:54 pm to VetteGuy
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dramatically underestimating the resale
Put the numbers on paper. You will lose money up front, lose money while operating, and lose money when getting rid of it.
Yall are dramatically over estimating what "need a diesel" means.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 12:01 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:18” pro drive for 6 trips between November and January.
need a diesel
Posted on 8/17/19 at 7:29 am to YOURADHERE
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you don’t need one then don’t buy one
Yeah, but yours is badass!
I have a 2015 Ecodiesel and will be getting a gas burner by the end of the year. Would love a Ram 2500, but I know it's not practical.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 8:26 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Yall are dramatically over estimating what "need a diesel" means.
not gonna debate that, that's up to the individual to decide.
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Put the numbers on paper. You will lose money up front, lose money while operating, and lose money when getting rid of it.
All this is true as it is for every single vehicle you buy, outside of collector stuff.
A diesel truck, outside of known failure-wagons, will still be a in-demand vehicle at resale time.
Look at what 7.3's are still bringing, and compare that to a gas burner from that era.
I've bought and sold vehicles, as a hobby, for a long time and I just go by what the market tells me. It is pretty crazy what these old diesel trucks will bring, even with salvage titles.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 8:38 am to VetteGuy
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All this is true as it is for every single vehicle you buy
Yep. The numbers are just bigger all around with a diesel.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 8:59 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
“Need”’is seldom relevant in life decisions.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 10:05 am to Chad504boy
I don't need an RV or a boat, but shoot man, nobody lives forever. (except maybe ex-wives, just outta spite 
)
)Posted on 8/17/19 at 10:35 am to GeauxTime9
No they are not.
There was a time diesels were cheaper to operate and lasted longer than gasoline engines but that is not true anymore. It really is foolish to drive around in one as a daily driver.
They are now much more costly to maintain and more costly to operate. The fuel economy a diesel may have is not worth the extra cost of fuel. Diesels probably do have enough fuel economy under load to operate more economically because gas engines really suck the gas under load but a single fuel pump change will offset a lifetime of those savings.
There was a time diesels were cheaper to operate and lasted longer than gasoline engines but that is not true anymore. It really is foolish to drive around in one as a daily driver.
They are now much more costly to maintain and more costly to operate. The fuel economy a diesel may have is not worth the extra cost of fuel. Diesels probably do have enough fuel economy under load to operate more economically because gas engines really suck the gas under load but a single fuel pump change will offset a lifetime of those savings.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 10:44 am to VetteGuy
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Look at what 7.3's are still bringing, and compare that to a gas burner from that era.
Kind of skewed because the added expense and complexity of new diesels has made older diesels more attractive to buyers. An old 7.3L PS towing/hauling vs this new 7.3L gasser will probably have the diesel lacking without some parts thrown at it. Modern big gas engine with a 10-speed transmission keeping well within its torque band should be easily as capable and still cost less to run.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 10:46 am to Chad504boy
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“Need”’is seldom relevant in life decisions.
That is absolutely true.
I see big F250s with diesels jacked up driven by subdivision dwellers with absolutely no work need for such a vehicle.
I suppose such vehicles may have psychological benefits for such owners if they have ego issues or manhood issues.
This post was edited on 8/17/19 at 10:47 am
Posted on 8/17/19 at 12:04 pm to I B Freeman
nvm, thread is now ridiculous.
This post was edited on 8/17/19 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 8/18/19 at 10:06 am to rattlebucket
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How is this possible?
Go to Preaus Ford in Farmerville. Oil, filter, and labor is $72 on my diesel.
It does take a specific rating on the oil and none of the major oil companies are producing an oil to meet that spec.
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