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re: Anyone ever use a Boykin Spaniel as a duck retriever?
Posted on 2/6/19 at 8:13 am to MobileJosh
Posted on 2/6/19 at 8:13 am to MobileJosh
quote:both of mine have run circles upland and waterfowl around the labs you just mentioned..
As a matter of fact the best Boykin would get smoked by a mere above average lab. They can’t swim as well, see as well, run as fast, hunt as hard and as long as a Lab. They are simply not equal.
and I have seen the 5 best LBDs out there right now.. and you are dead wrong if you think the average lab can even touch them. are mine as good as my best lab and chessie.. .nope.. but when I had those 2 I had way way more free time to train and hunted/guided nearly every day of the season then..
and I've been in the bird dawg game for over 40 years as everything except a hunt test judge. in fact on upland hunts quail, pheasant, woodcock... they run circles around most labs I have seen - most labs are simply too big to go all day through in, over and under most cover.
and what i consider to be a "decent" retriever is one that doesn't need an e collar on to hunt
my female is one of the best 5 marking dogs I have ever been around.. in fact one day at a hunt test not too long ago some fat arse with a 125 lb lab that needed about 10 whistles to fetch two tough marks made the comment as I walked by him going to the line "is that a boykin, I bet they make great house dogs" I said they do.... thank you.. as she went up to the line and cleared both marks with zero whistles... and lined the blind clean with no whistle..... I saw about 25 of the 35 dogs run that series.. and she was the only one that did all 3 with no whistles.. pro trainer from MISS.. politely said as we were walking back to the truck.. not a bad run for a house dawg........
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Posted on 2/6/19 at 9:30 am to choupiquesushi
Oh cool, it’s that guy! Congrats on your little dog retrieving pretty ribbons! Now drop it off in 30ft deep Mississippi backwater and have it retrieve an 8 man limit of mallards in the current. Or watch it attempt blinds in rice stubble that’s over its head where it can’t see you, your hand signal or the mark because he’s too short. Or go watch it attempt to drag geese in all day, in a timely manner. And watch it do those things next to a competent Lab. Then tell me with a straight face that your dog is the better option for waterfowl hunting.
We hunt both breeds. My best friend owns 2 Boykins. They hunt hard and retrieve. Versatile little dogs. But they can’t compete with the Labs day in and day out with the type of hunting we do. Little Barney beat a fat out of shape Lab in a contest, with no whistle! Lmao
We hunt both breeds. My best friend owns 2 Boykins. They hunt hard and retrieve. Versatile little dogs. But they can’t compete with the Labs day in and day out with the type of hunting we do. Little Barney beat a fat out of shape Lab in a contest, with no whistle! Lmao
This post was edited on 2/6/19 at 9:32 am
Posted on 2/6/19 at 9:39 am to MobileJosh
quote:I'll put mine up against your's anytime anyplace. I've only killed about 20 geese in the last 4 years.. hardly my concern 8 man limit of mallards day in and day out.. my aching arse
Oh cool, it’s that guy! Congrats on your little dog retrieving pretty ribbons! Now drop it off in 30ft deep Mississippi backwater and have it retrieve an 8 man limit of mallards in the current. Or watch it attempt blinds in rice stubble that’s over its head where it can’t see you, your hand signal or the mark because he’s too short. Or go watch it attempt to drag geese in all day, in a timely manner. And watch it do those things next to a competent Lab. Then tell me with a straight face that your dog is the better option for waterfowl hunting.
We hunt both breeds. My best friend owns 2 Boykins. They hunt hard and retrieve. Versatile little dogs. But they can’t compete with the Labs day in and day out with the type of hunting we do. Little Barney beat a fat out of shape Lab in a contest, with no whistle! Lmao
This post was edited on 2/6/19 at 9:41 am
Posted on 2/6/19 at 9:42 am to choupiquesushi
Have had Boykins since 1981, registration #BSR0161. At 6 months and 1 week old she retrieved the 5 dove I shot for her. In '83 had a 15 month old male that on his 1st hunt retrieved 16 mallards. They can do the work. Look at the BSS national hunt open class results from April last year. The winner is 6xGHRCH. the 2nd-4th place dogs are all HRCH , so they are not lap dogs when paired up with the right owners.
Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:01 am to MobileJosh
Size does matter, there is no doubt. Sugar Ray Leonard was a great boxer, but day in day out he would not beat Ali when both were in their prime. That being said, Boykin are damn fine dogs. Not everyone is needing a dog to retrieve an 8 man limit in the Mississippi backwater. Over the years have sold a couple of pups to a fella that hunts south Tx. He always wanted the runt out of the litter. Asked him why and the reply was "it is so thick where I hunt that a big dog can't get through the stuff, but these small dog can get under it. Not everyone needs a Freightliner when a F150 will do the work needed.
Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:42 am to choupiquesushi
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I'll put mine up against your's anytime anyplace.
Sure you will. I’ll leave my Labs in kennel and we can have us a good ole Boykin showdown just to keep it interesting. quote:
8 man limit of mallards
Correct. 32 mallards. Was hardly day in and day out this year, nor did I claim that, but it was accomplished multiple times in our better blinds. Down year for sure.
quote:
my aching arse
Probably from talking out of it so much. Easy to spot when one gets so defensive about their dog and starts bragging about shite from from 40 years ago. Boykins are good little dogs. Glad you’re happy with yours and it’s ribbons. Take care
Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:56 am to MobileJosh
quote:hmm the first sign someone is in over their heads and talking out of their arse is when they start name calling and putting down the other guy.... and I don't want you to leave your labs at home.. I want you to bring one so i can watch it smoke my little dog
I'll put mine up against your's anytime anyplace.
Sure you will. I’ll leave my Labs in kennel and we can have us a good ole Boykin showdown just to keep it interesting.
quote:
8 man limit of mallards
Correct. 32 mallards. Was hardly day in and day out this year, nor did I claim that, but it was accomplished multiple times in our better blinds. Down year for sure.
quote:
my aching arse
Probably from talking out of it so much. Easy to spot when one gets so defensive about their dog and starts bragging about shite from from 40 years ago. Boykins are good little dogs. Glad you’re happy with yours and it’s ribbons. Take care
This post was edited on 2/6/19 at 11:06 am
Posted on 2/6/19 at 11:07 am to Brown Dog
quote:that's about half the retrieves my little female had last year...
it is so thick where I hunt that a big dog can't get through the stuff, but these small dog can get under it. Not everyone needs a Freightliner when a F150 will do the work needed
Posted on 2/6/19 at 11:15 am to Brown Dog
quote:so you ain't from LA
Anyone ever use a Boykin Spaniel as a duck retriever?
Have had Boykins since 1981, registration #BSR0161.
Posted on 2/6/19 at 11:19 am to Brown Dog
quote:I saw those dogs in the grand... I thought mine was great before then.. but I realized those are the SEC and the ACC and mine are still in conference usa.... I saw several of those run in alabama in oct too.. BH and BT dogs are out of this world for sure
They can do the work. Look at the BSS national hunt open class results from April last year. The winner is 6xGHRCH. the 2nd-4th place dogs are all HRCH
Posted on 2/6/19 at 11:47 am to choupiquesushi
Not from La, from Miss. I show twice in the pedigree of Pelham and the 3rd (Cash) and 4th (Boudreau) place dogs were whelped in my breakfast room.
Posted on 2/6/19 at 11:55 am to Brown Dog
quote:well then I know who you are... yep.. you the sec commissioner...
Not from La, from Miss. I show twice in the pedigree of Pelham and the 3rd (Cash) and 4th (Boudreau) place dogs were whelped in my breakfast room.
5 years ago when we were looking you were one of the people we were referred too, but we had lost a dog and were dogless and needed to move pretty quick on getting one.This post was edited on 2/6/19 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 2/6/19 at 12:02 pm to choupiquesushi
I heard this saying somewhere a while back when talking about hunt tests and dogs and this thread reminds me of it. "A man's ego is a mighty heavy load for a dog to carry."
Posted on 2/6/19 at 12:14 pm to bullred84
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I heard this saying somewhere a while back when talking about hunt tests and dogs and this thread reminds me of it. "A man's ego is a mighty heavy load for a dog to carry."
On top of that, there are 3 things you don't ever speak poorly of in front of a guy, his woman, his kids or his dog...
Posted on 2/6/19 at 12:15 pm to Lonnie Utah
quote:I can tell you if you leave a field trial with 4-5 dogs still to run and you tell two people that are still there to pick up your ribbon for you and you'll get with them during the week.... you really piss off those 4-5 people....
On top of that, there are 3 things you don't ever speak poorly of in front of a guy, his woman, his kids or his dog...
Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:04 pm to choupiquesushi
brown dog,
whats the heaviest rock'n male
whats the heaviest rock'n male
Posted on 2/6/19 at 5:04 pm to nolaks
Wilson by far. He is at 50lbs
This post was edited on 2/6/19 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 2/6/19 at 6:30 pm to MobileJosh
quote:
Oh cool, it’s that guy! Congrats on your little dog retrieving pretty ribbons!
Well, now you're just being an a-hole. I love labs and have run them for years. I've also watched some Boykin's make me check my "lab only mentality", even in some tough hunting situations.
I know one thing, they sure are nice when you've got 5 guys and all their gear crammed in for a long boat ride.
I like the Boykin also for its versatility. A friend uses his to retrieve, blood trails deer and bust fall turkey flocks.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 9:14 am to choupiquesushi
Are you planning on breeding your dogs again since all of the pups are spoken for? And if so,can I get your email? I'm interested in getting a pup
This post was edited on 2/8/19 at 9:19 am
Posted on 2/8/19 at 9:24 am to Rust
quote:My male has a litter on the ground that has all pups spoken for currently.
Are you planning on breeding your dogs again since all of the pups are spoken for? And if so,can I get your email? I'm interested in getting a pup
If I breed my two I have 6 firm ones spoken for - and a couple of pending breedings for my male this spring.
let me know when you get email so i can remove it
This post was edited on 2/8/19 at 4:18 pm
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