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Anyone ever do a DIY -Public Land Hunt for Elk in the Colorado or NM
Posted on 9/13/12 at 8:07 am
Posted on 9/13/12 at 8:07 am
Just trying to piece together some information to see what it would take as far as equipment and money to do a public land Archery elk hunt for an out of stater. No guide or guide service. Or maybe just use of a lodge and facilities but just kind of go out and do my own thing.
Not in a huge hurry looking to get this off the ground in the next 2 years or so.
Has anyone on the OB done this before, any advice would be appreciated.
Not in a huge hurry looking to get this off the ground in the next 2 years or so.
Has anyone on the OB done this before, any advice would be appreciated.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 8:31 am to TexasTiger
I've done it in Montana, but did it with a friend of mine familiar with the area. As far as money, you're looking at travel plus tags plus food. In those western states, there are forest service cabins that you can rent for very cheap. they are rustic but a much better experience than a lodge IMO.
I would suggest you subscribe to Huntin Fool Magazine to work out your tags. Then, get maps of all the available public land and plan where you want to go.
As far as equipment--good comfortable boots, a good pack (eberlestock or similar), calls, binocs, gps/compass. You will do lots of hiking.
I would suggest you subscribe to Huntin Fool Magazine to work out your tags. Then, get maps of all the available public land and plan where you want to go.
As far as equipment--good comfortable boots, a good pack (eberlestock or similar), calls, binocs, gps/compass. You will do lots of hiking.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 8:34 am to TexasTiger
I have two cousins that go every year to Colorado (unless they draw tags in Utah) and do a public land hunt. They rent horses and stay in a tent for two weeks. It is inexpensive if you do it that way.
I think the horses are like $50/week and the license is about $500
Other than that, they have to pay for gas, gear, food, and I think they go into town twice and sleep in a motel so they can shower and eat a hot meal.
I think the horses are like $50/week and the license is about $500
Other than that, they have to pay for gas, gear, food, and I think they go into town twice and sleep in a motel so they can shower and eat a hot meal.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 8:40 am to Slickback
Slick
Do you know what area of Colorado they hunt, also whats there success rate?
Do you know what area of Colorado they hunt, also whats there success rate?
Posted on 9/13/12 at 8:49 am to TexasTiger
I looked into doing a hunt like this this Fall. I found White River NF has a pretty good success ratio. It is posted online. The way I priced it, I think I came in under $1,000/per person for 10 days. Biggest problem was finding someone willing to fork out the cash and take the time to come with me.
There are plug ins for google earth for elk herd migration routes and public land in Colorado. Pretty cool and informative.
Also was kind of intimidating, considering I have never hunted elk let alone hunted in the west, but I am dying to do it if i can find someone willing to come with me.
There are plug ins for google earth for elk herd migration routes and public land in Colorado. Pretty cool and informative.
Also was kind of intimidating, considering I have never hunted elk let alone hunted in the west, but I am dying to do it if i can find someone willing to come with me.
This post was edited on 9/13/12 at 8:51 am
Posted on 9/13/12 at 8:55 am to TexasTiger
Did it ourselves a few times years ago.
Drove a suburban and pulled a U haul. Had a mattress in the back of the suburban so one guy could sleep while the other drove. We hunted a place called Calamity ridge near Rangely, CO. Tags were walk up back then. Mule deer tags must be applied for in April now. Moved on up over the years. We fly to Montrose and stay in a lodge in the Uncompahgre range. Someone still has to drive the gear though.
Drove a suburban and pulled a U haul. Had a mattress in the back of the suburban so one guy could sleep while the other drove. We hunted a place called Calamity ridge near Rangely, CO. Tags were walk up back then. Mule deer tags must be applied for in April now. Moved on up over the years. We fly to Montrose and stay in a lodge in the Uncompahgre range. Someone still has to drive the gear though.
This post was edited on 9/13/12 at 9:04 am
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:04 am to TexasTiger
Unless NM has changed their regs you are required to use an outfitter when hunting elk as a nonresident.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:05 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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I have never hunted elk let alone hunted in the west, but I am dying to do it if i can find someone willing to come with me.
There are several of us on the board that want to do this.
I want to use horses as well. A horse provides a lot of mobility and utility.
I will go with someone if they can work out a date. This year I can take vehicle and likely cover gas.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:11 am to TexasTiger
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Do you know what area of Colorado they hunt, also whats there success rate?
I can find out. One of them kill pretty much every year. It is rare that they both kill, but also rare that they come home without one. One of them killed an absolute mammoth a couple years ago. I'll see if I can get pics of it as well.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:14 am to wiltznucs
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Unless NM has changed their regs you are required to use an outfitter when hunting elk as a nonresident.
As of two years ago this was still the case. Some of the outfitters will charge you minimum amount. They don't really have to guide you just point in the right direction and know when you enter and leave the public lands.
Slick I think they were hunting in southwest CO. Maybe around Durango?
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:23 am to TexasTiger
I have two friends of mine who should be going up the mountain as I type this. They did a semi guided. Semi-guided meaning a guy will take them up to camp and leave, come back several days later to check on them and finally pick them up at the end of the hunt.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:23 am to Nodust
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Slick I think they were hunting in southwest CO. Maybe around Durango?
That sounds right. I know they try different areas some times. You know who I'm talking about, MP and LL?
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:27 am to Slickback
I know downshifts uncle made a few trips to that area also, but its been a few years.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:29 am to Slickback
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You know who I'm talking about, MP and LL
They may have been further north can't really remember. Colorado has a ton of elk so there are plenty of opportunities.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 9:50 am to TexasTiger
I've done it several times in CO but haven't been the last three years because of my job.
I go with two friends and his dad and brother. We have three mules and a huge three horse slant gooseneck trailer. We've camped on the mountain a couple times and also stayed in cabins.
We've hunted the Navajo Peak area of the San Juan mountains around Chromo, CO and also east of there around Fort Garland. I prefer the Chromo/ Pagosa Springs area.
We've had some success, I missed a very nice 6x6 my second year, and killed a nice 5x5 the next. I've been during rifle season four times and muzzle loader once. Never been during archery but would love to try it. If you're going during archery season, I suggest you purchase one of these decoys. I've read great reviews about them. They'll keep the bulls attention off of you and on the decoy and are great for getting a bull away from his harem. LINK
Colorado is the way to go if you want to DIY. They have the largest population of elk and probably the most public land also. Most of the Rockies is public land. Check out the CO Dept. of Wildlife website. They have alot of useful info about success rates in different GMU's, and about draw odds. Many GMU's have over the counter tags for archery and rifle (2nd & 3rd season). Some GMU's are designated as trophy units and are draw only. LINK
We used to do the whole trip including tags ($535 then, $575 now), diesel, food and lodging for around $1000-1300 per man. I also know an outfitter in Chromo who'll go pack out your elk with mules for $200.
Let me know if you need anymore info. Be warned though, it is highly addictive!
I go with two friends and his dad and brother. We have three mules and a huge three horse slant gooseneck trailer. We've camped on the mountain a couple times and also stayed in cabins.
We've hunted the Navajo Peak area of the San Juan mountains around Chromo, CO and also east of there around Fort Garland. I prefer the Chromo/ Pagosa Springs area.
We've had some success, I missed a very nice 6x6 my second year, and killed a nice 5x5 the next. I've been during rifle season four times and muzzle loader once. Never been during archery but would love to try it. If you're going during archery season, I suggest you purchase one of these decoys. I've read great reviews about them. They'll keep the bulls attention off of you and on the decoy and are great for getting a bull away from his harem. LINK
Colorado is the way to go if you want to DIY. They have the largest population of elk and probably the most public land also. Most of the Rockies is public land. Check out the CO Dept. of Wildlife website. They have alot of useful info about success rates in different GMU's, and about draw odds. Many GMU's have over the counter tags for archery and rifle (2nd & 3rd season). Some GMU's are designated as trophy units and are draw only. LINK
We used to do the whole trip including tags ($535 then, $575 now), diesel, food and lodging for around $1000-1300 per man. I also know an outfitter in Chromo who'll go pack out your elk with mules for $200.
Let me know if you need anymore info. Be warned though, it is highly addictive!
This post was edited on 9/13/12 at 10:36 am
Posted on 9/13/12 at 10:33 am to Slickback
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I think the horses are like $50/week and the license is about $500
Can you post details on this?
I am going to Montana again next year but want to make a yearly thing of this for cheaper. The biggest thing that the outfitter provides me in Montana is the horses. I could do the hunt myself if I had horses. They hunt public land mostly anyway.
Meant to say...I have horses, just not mountain horses. Huge difference.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 10:38 am to jimjackandjose
quote:Buy a mule. I've heard some horror stories about horses fricking people up in the mountains. Mules will not do anything to hurt themselves, horses, not so much.
Meant to say...I have horses, just not mountain horses. Huge difference.
Couple years back, we met another hunter on a mule, he had a huge scar on his forehead across his eye. Said his horse ran off a cliff with him on it. Almost killed him. Said he'd never ride a horse in the mountains again.
This post was edited on 9/13/12 at 10:44 am
Posted on 9/13/12 at 10:40 am to wiltznucs
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Unless NM has changed their regs you are required to use an outfitter when hunting elk as a nonresident.
Thanks Wiltznucs this is the type of quick info I was looking for....
Also good stuff so far guys...
Sounds like we may an OB DIY Elk hunt in our futures.
Posted on 9/13/12 at 10:50 am to TexasTiger
DIY on public land is the way to go. It's what I consider "real elk hunting".
I'm not impressed with those guys that pay $5000 to hunt private land adjacent to national forest over an alfalfa field. Guide to client, "We'll just sit right here for about an hour or so until right before sunset, and they'll come walking down the mountain to feed in this field. Pick out a nice bull and shoot him.". That's not hunting.
I promise you, I'm as proud of that little 5x5 on my wall as any because I did it myself.
I'm not impressed with those guys that pay $5000 to hunt private land adjacent to national forest over an alfalfa field. Guide to client, "We'll just sit right here for about an hour or so until right before sunset, and they'll come walking down the mountain to feed in this field. Pick out a nice bull and shoot him.". That's not hunting.
I promise you, I'm as proud of that little 5x5 on my wall as any because I did it myself.
This post was edited on 9/13/12 at 11:30 am
Posted on 9/13/12 at 11:11 am to TexasTiger
My buddy who does not hunt moved near Vegas, NM and I have a standing invite to go up for a hunt anytime. His cabin is on the edge of the rockies about a mile from a national forest and there are elk in his yard. I messed up this year my not applying for the tag soon enough. I may apply next year.
It is a little intimidating to think about hunting a new type of animal, in a strange place, without another hunter, etc.; but I still want to do it one of these days.
It is a little intimidating to think about hunting a new type of animal, in a strange place, without another hunter, etc.; but I still want to do it one of these days.
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