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re: Anybody catch the KNOE piece tonight on the Busbice deer operation?
Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:50 am to AlxTgr
Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:50 am to AlxTgr
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Ah, but are the deer told this? if not, it's ineffective.
If there was something new similar to this the surrounding land owners would be smart to rent a helicopter and try to flush deer out before the 4th fence goes up
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Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:52 am to Jim Rockford
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Ruined the hunting for everybody surrounding them, problems accessing their own property, blocking streams and causing flooding and erosion, etc. State bureaucrats and legislators have passed the buck. KNOE reached out to A&E and the Busbice's for their side of the story and they refused to give a statement.
So they got tired of all the potluckers hunting their well managed deer and fenced it and people are pissed...
What do you expect the state to do?
Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:56 am to FelicianaTigerfan
quote:I would just wait until it's done, then build a one way valve out of theirs onto mine.
If there was something new similar to this the surrounding land owners would be smart to rent a helicopter and try to flush deer out before the 4th fence goes up
Posted on 4/28/15 at 11:59 am to AlxTgr
They probably don't want the neighbors crappy deer getting Mixed with the good deer.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:01 pm to slinger1317
Met Ryan back when he first started up the company, he seemed like an alright dude then. A buddy of mine went to high school with him.
Those frickers aren't country though... not sure why they call them rednecks when they went to school at STM.
Pretty sure the dad's company help fund and start up Ryan's deer bait/supplement idea. That ol boy has been loaded for a good while.
Hard to say bad thing b/c they have succeeded, but they definitely give off a bad vibe.... and definitely aren't country. I mean, most of us on this board hunt and fish but that doesn't mean we are "country"
Those frickers aren't country though... not sure why they call them rednecks when they went to school at STM.
Pretty sure the dad's company help fund and start up Ryan's deer bait/supplement idea. That ol boy has been loaded for a good while.
Hard to say bad thing b/c they have succeeded, but they definitely give off a bad vibe.... and definitely aren't country. I mean, most of us on this board hunt and fish but that doesn't mean we are "country"
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:43 pm to HebertFest08
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Hard to say bad thing b/c they have succeeded, but they definitely give off a bad vibe.... and definitely aren't country. I mean, most of us on this board hunt and fish but that doesn't mean we are "country"
The people who care about whether they're labeled country are not are the posers that listen to Luke Bryan and FGL bullshite and drive monster trucks anyway.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:43 pm to Jim Rockford
Pretty shitty thing for them to do, but within their right IMO. I envy them TBH.
Id like to hear more about how they were able to acquire 55,000 acres and then afford to fence it all in. That isn't some cheap-o fence, it's high quality shite.
With it being during Mike Fosters tenure, I can see him allocating some state funds to fund this, especially with; a) it's Louisiana, b) Busbice was head of WLF at the time, c) Foster was a huge hunter.
Id like to hear more about how they were able to acquire 55,000 acres and then afford to fence it all in. That isn't some cheap-o fence, it's high quality shite.
With it being during Mike Fosters tenure, I can see him allocating some state funds to fund this, especially with; a) it's Louisiana, b) Busbice was head of WLF at the time, c) Foster was a huge hunter.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:47 pm to Slickback
Are we sure 55k is the correct amount of acres? That is 86 square miles of land...
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:48 pm to Slickback
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:49 pm to Slickback
I hunt in Winn Parish but until a couple of years ago had not heard about this.
It's their land and they can do what they want but if it is detrimental to their neighbors; cutting off access, fencing three sides of neighboring property, etc., then it is in bad form.
With 55,000 acres though, why do you need to high fence it? That's 86 square miles
It's their land and they can do what they want but if it is detrimental to their neighbors; cutting off access, fencing three sides of neighboring property, etc., then it is in bad form.
With 55,000 acres though, why do you need to high fence it? That's 86 square miles
Posted on 4/28/15 at 1:59 pm to TigerDeacon
I wonder if we can get them to work on quail habitat on the land. That would be the right thing to do...
Posted on 4/28/15 at 2:03 pm to wickowick
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What do you expect the state to do?
whatever a democratic, judicially active judge wants to.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 2:06 pm to AlxTgr
Was buddies with the green jeans in the article when I lived in nacitrash
Posted on 4/28/15 at 2:16 pm to TigerDeacon
Bill Busbice has had millions for quite a few years. He was also an LDWF commissioner for a few years some 10-15 years ago.
On the fencing of property, how it works is this...you can do one of two options. You can fence in the property, have LDWF biologists come in and give an estimate on the numbers of deer, and pay restitution to the state of $525 per deer. The other, is build three sides, run out as many as possible, and fence it back in and stock it back. In both cases you are "supposed" to pay restitution.
On the fencing of property, how it works is this...you can do one of two options. You can fence in the property, have LDWF biologists come in and give an estimate on the numbers of deer, and pay restitution to the state of $525 per deer. The other, is build three sides, run out as many as possible, and fence it back in and stock it back. In both cases you are "supposed" to pay restitution.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 2:22 pm to Fratigerguy
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biologists come in and give an estimate on the numbers of deer, and pay restitution to the state of $525 per deer. The other, is build three sides, run out as many as possible, and fence it back in and stock it back. In both cases you are "supposed" to pay restitution.
holy shite that is retarded 
Posted on 4/28/15 at 2:40 pm to Jim Rockford
I love when the poor folks get mad because money buys power.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 2:43 pm to Fratigerguy
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On the fencing of property, how it works is this...you can do one of two options. You can fence in the property, have LDWF biologists come in and give an estimate on the numbers of deer, and pay restitution to the state of $525 per deer. The other, is build three sides, run out as many as possible, and fence it back in and stock it back. In both cases you are "supposed" to pay restitution.
Seems fair. I like it.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 2:51 pm to Slickback
I'm from that area and when this land was purchased several high up government officials were involved.
If we truly knew how much of our tax dollars helped with this purchase we would probably shite a brick. That being said its now their land and outlaws are thick in that area. I do not blame them for protecting their investment. IMO opinion no different than high fenced ranches in Texas.
If we truly knew how much of our tax dollars helped with this purchase we would probably shite a brick. That being said its now their land and outlaws are thick in that area. I do not blame them for protecting their investment. IMO opinion no different than high fenced ranches in Texas.
Posted on 4/28/15 at 2:52 pm to Slickback
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Id like to hear more about how they were able to acquire 55,000 acres and then afford to fence it all in. That isn't some cheap-o fence, it's high quality shite.
Bill Busbice was the co-owner of ACE Transportation and sold out for hundreds of millions to an investment group in 2008
a good percentage of the land was acquired through "brother in law" deals with Paper Companies and politicians
Ryan and Matt started WGI back in 2002 and had revenues over $25M mainly from selling "acorn rage" and other flavored corn products. Back in the day, I remember them selling deer food product out the back of their trucks to Russell Jackson at Lafayette Shooters and other local hunting stores.
in 2011, revenue was $112M as the parent company Synergy Outdoors also owns Barnett xbows, flex tone calls, Ameristep, Evolved Harvest , Plano, etc... as they continue to buy smaller companies to expand their products and market
both brothers are in their mid 30's , won't be surprised if they grow WGI another few years and sell out for stupid money to an investment firm
I respect what they've done business wise; however I'm NOT a fan of the show or their cheap products
This post was edited on 4/28/15 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 4/28/15 at 2:54 pm to TigerDeacon
I lived in Winn Parish until 19 years ago, and have hunted in the area of this "farm" a few times as a kid. Thought it was mainly timber company land, and it was back in the days when everything wasn't leased up. Never heard of Busbice until a few years ago when he fenced it all in. Now I hear that you can drive by on the road and see huge bucks inside the fence. Wow thats hunting, but it's not as if there's a lot of real hunting done anymore anywhere though. Deer hunting now is basically shooting a deer trying to eat what you put out for him. But that's another rant.
I DGAF if they can buy a whole state and fence it up. I just don't think grants should be given to private citizens to enrich what they have. No grants will ever be given to me to enhance any of my property.
Sounds like Busbice was in the loop with the pigs in BR, and made the most of his time at the trough. More power to him. Probably a lot of the same shenanigans involved with the Honey Brake lodge, but also none of my business. Definitely not speaking from first hand knowledge, but I've been around long enough to see how things work.
I DGAF if they can buy a whole state and fence it up. I just don't think grants should be given to private citizens to enrich what they have. No grants will ever be given to me to enhance any of my property.
quote:To of course, keep the peasants from shooting your high dollar deer, some of which are worth $15-20,000 (or more). People around that area shoot guns all night long during most of the year, and deer in the roadway are in a war zone most of their lives. Green jeans are pretty absent most of the time, thus Louisiana won't ever be on the same level as Mississippi or Texas as far as deer population or quality goes.
why do you need to high fence it
Sounds like Busbice was in the loop with the pigs in BR, and made the most of his time at the trough. More power to him. Probably a lot of the same shenanigans involved with the Honey Brake lodge, but also none of my business. Definitely not speaking from first hand knowledge, but I've been around long enough to see how things work.
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