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re: 6.5 Grendel ELD-M bullets for hunting
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:36 am to SportTiger1
Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:36 am to SportTiger1
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I don't care how many deer "drop right there", I'm not using a round that doesn't exist most of the time. Especially for kids, I want a good blood trail over immediate terminal ballistics
It’s amazing how so many people cannot comprehend how thick and difficult it can be with nothing to go on. Even without a kid on the trigger I have found deer 60yd away completely the opposite direction from which the shooter swore the deer ran and even that the deer was standing 100yd and not the 150 they swore he was standing.
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Posted on 11/27/23 at 10:49 am to Ol boy
I'm going to try some 130 nosler accubonds just to compare, but my kid has shot 7 with the 123 sst. Our experience
1) Large MS buck, high shoulder shot, DRT no exit no blood
2) MS doe, same as above
3) MS doe, this is the only one we lost so i'm not sure, huge blood trail that eventually dried up, he said he aimed high shoulder, what we found was lung blood.
4) MS buck, high shoulder, no exit, made is maybe 20 yds, no blood
5) TX doe, double lung exit, good blood, made it maybe 100 yds.
6) TX 8 point, high shoulder DRT, no exit, no blood
7) TX 8 point, double lung, good blood and exit, made it 97 yds.
I do wish the bullets we've found retained more mass, again gonna try nosler, but we've been happy for a small kid
1) Large MS buck, high shoulder shot, DRT no exit no blood
2) MS doe, same as above
3) MS doe, this is the only one we lost so i'm not sure, huge blood trail that eventually dried up, he said he aimed high shoulder, what we found was lung blood.
4) MS buck, high shoulder, no exit, made is maybe 20 yds, no blood
5) TX doe, double lung exit, good blood, made it maybe 100 yds.
6) TX 8 point, high shoulder DRT, no exit, no blood
7) TX 8 point, double lung, good blood and exit, made it 97 yds.
I do wish the bullets we've found retained more mass, again gonna try nosler, but we've been happy for a small kid
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:44 am to Theduckhunter
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All performed well w/ deep penetration on all deer.
So… pass throughs with decent exit?
Yes. I should've added that my handgun rounds run a couple hundred feet/sec slower than compparable rifle rounds so I don't normally get many "bang flops" w/ the usual chest shot. Consequently, I want a bullet that exits and leaves a nice blood trail.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 2:59 pm to Theduckhunter
From what I gather federal fusion is the tits for the grendel. Hard to find though.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 3:11 pm to TheBoo
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From what I gather federal fusion is the tits for the grendel. Hard to find though
Yea if they were available I probably wouldn’t have started this thread
I shoot fusions in a lot of different calibers. This post was edited on 11/27/23 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 11/27/23 at 7:39 pm to Theduckhunter
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From what I gather federal fusion is the tits for the grendel. Hard to find though
Federal Fusions are the Speer Gold Dot rebranded. It's a good bullet in my 260 Remington and one I'd try in the Grendel.
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Yea if they were available I probably wouldn’t have started this thread I shoot fusions in a lot of different calibers.
For >1.5 years I've been unable to find the two Gold Dot bullets I like to hunt w/, the 120 gr 6.5 and the 150 gr 30 (Blackout) bullets.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 7:10 am to Theduckhunter
Slight bump on this thread for OP.
Shot a doe last night with my 6.5 Grendel using the Barnes ammo I previously recommended.
Shot her right behind the left shoulder at a slightly quartered angle. Clean pass through and came out middle of ribs. Good size exit wound. Not the largest blood trail, but definitely enough blood to just follow the trail. She made it maybe 30 yards.
All in all I’d say great success.
Shot a doe last night with my 6.5 Grendel using the Barnes ammo I previously recommended.
Shot her right behind the left shoulder at a slightly quartered angle. Clean pass through and came out middle of ribs. Good size exit wound. Not the largest blood trail, but definitely enough blood to just follow the trail. She made it maybe 30 yards.
All in all I’d say great success.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 7:37 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
There’s so much personal preference in this like fixed blades vs mechanical.
A guy shoots a deer behind the shoulder with a ELDX and liquifies the chest, drops the deer, and it doesn’t exit. One guy says that’s a failure, another says that’s a success.
Same with a bullet that pencils through, blood trailing a deer hit behind the shoulder 150 yards is a success for one guy and a failure to another.
Everybody has something between a full metal jacket and a thin jacketed match bullet they’ll prefer.
A guy shoots a deer behind the shoulder with a ELDX and liquifies the chest, drops the deer, and it doesn’t exit. One guy says that’s a failure, another says that’s a success.
Same with a bullet that pencils through, blood trailing a deer hit behind the shoulder 150 yards is a success for one guy and a failure to another.
Everybody has something between a full metal jacket and a thin jacketed match bullet they’ll prefer.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 7:54 am to Farmtiger
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I just ordered a 6.5 Grendel for my son.
Did you get the package with the free tracking dog ?
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:08 am to TigerOnThe Hill
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Federal Fusions are the Speer Gold Dot rebranded
Idk why I haven't tried them yet. Everyone who uses them seems to like them.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:32 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I use them in the .270. If I could find them in grendel I’d give them a try.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 8:50 am to Junky
Man fusions in a 270 is bad medicine. They quit making them for my 270 wsm and I haven’t found component bullets. They always exit but most of the deer don’t leave their tracks. Happy medium.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 3:54 pm to bigbuckdj
quote:well sure, and people have plenty of anecdotes to live off of. I swore off ballistic tips years ago, after tracking deer that were definitely hit but never found.
There’s so much personal preference in this like fixed blades vs mechanical.
The other poster said it best, at my place, if a deer runs 100 yards without a blood trail, it's going to be a bitch to track.
But then again, I shot a buck a month ago with a copper monolithic bullet (Hornady) quartering to me, shot in front shoulder, turned and traveled the length of its body, turned left again and exited on the same side it entered in its rear hip. Deer ran 400 yards and had to put 2 more rounds in when I found him. shite happens
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