re: 6.5 Creed Is Not a Super Cartridge

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Hornadys website claims it holds 50% weight retention under 400 yards, and 80-90% over 400 yards. its made softer so it will still expand at long range, which most people will never even attempt.

so functionally at normal range, its a ballistic tip shedding half of its mass. i would be interested to know of all the deer killed with EDLX in this thread, what percentage had exit holes?

im not shooting a bullet that loses that much weight.

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I knew it was designed to expand at lower velocities. That does equal essentially better expansion downrange. Ive shot 2 deer both under 100 yards and I had one exit, one that didnt. The one that lodged in the left shoulder on a quartering away shot. The entrance wound was perfect placement for it to exit the font side of the left shoulder but it didnt exit and damaged alot of that opposite shoulder meat wise so I didnt get meat from that shoulder. Internal damage was significant. Heart, lungs were shredded.

The buck I shot, was a perfect broadside shot and it exited the other side with about a quarter size hole. solid blood trail but it wasnt needed. Both were ethic quick clean kills. I hate I lost meat but sometimes it happens with every bullet.

I havent started load development with the other bullets but I had clover leaf group with in about 5 different powder charges with eldx so I didnt even mess with the OAL. Maybe i got lucky but that particular load shoots as good as I can shoot it.

There isnt a right or wrong answer. its just a matter of what your preference or goal is. Maximum penetration? Maximum expansion? Maximum damage? Blend of penetration and expansion? Just so many choices

I'm not a cartridge elitist.

I like all types of them, but nothing out there is so irresistible that it makes me want to abandon my classic American .30s (30-30, 308, 30-06)

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and its a short action

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I think this is the only important aspect if this post. We don't need a speed war, and we don't need to impressively kill things.

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There isnt a right or wrong answer. its just a matter of what your preference or goal is. Maximum penetration? Maximum expansion? Maximum damage? Blend of penetration and expansion? Just so many choices

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no disagreement there. my point is, all these people claiming they never found their deer with the 6.5 CM is probably because of poor shot placement + no exit, NOT the caliber.

A bullet that holds together probably resolves 1 of those issues.

And with many of the 6.5 offerings being marketed for Match or Precision hunting, they are using ELDX bullets and the like, resulting in a plethora of these use cases and giving the caliber a reputation of the 'cripplemore' as 257WBY likes to call it

You got exposed, nice cover up try.

The .260 is a superior cartridge, thats not really arguable.

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Basically, reloaders with modern rifles load both calibers to the same MAP with the same bullets, in which case the .260 will always be first over the 6.5mm Creedmoor in performance.

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I won't even get into the inferior brass of the factory CM loads

Not sure why they would choose an inferior cartridge, the 260 got a bad rap because of the original factory twist used, thats it.

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You got exposed

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Debunked.

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The .260 is a superior cartridge, thats not really arguable.

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It's not, and reasonable minds can't differ. You have no idea what you're talking about. Your quote is incomplete. Higher velocity only. Too bad you can't use it as effectively due to twist. You're an idiot lol

Serious question and I’m not just trolling. Are you people serious? What is the big deal ? I shoot my 6.5 because I’m comfortable with it and it has done quite well for me. I shoot whitetail in the shoulder and have never had a problem. Do y’all really need to look into ballistics that hard to kill animals? I don’t shoot 120lb Louisiana does at 900 yards because I just don’t consider that hunting. But to each his own. I’m not judging. I’m not saying I couldn’t do better with something else but I don’t have any reason to change. This goes for the killing of many many animal species in many states. Some folks need to chill. Go bow hunting or something if you’re really needing a challenge that bad

Wanna see my savage factory 1-8, or you're aware there are tons of people who make barrels???? You can't be this dumb

Wait you thought you could only get 260's in the original factory twist?

Now that's cute