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re: Italian boxer gives up against “questionably gendered” Algerian boxer

Posted on 8/1/24 at 9:09 pm to
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
9687 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 9:09 pm to
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don’t view this in the prism of trans at all and without the trans movement of recent years I don’t think she would be getting much negativity

This isn’t trans at all and I don’t view it the same as some loser guy pretending to be a girl. It’s unfortunate for the Algerian but still shouldn’t be allowed to compete against true females.
Posted by GetMeOutOfHere
Member since Aug 2018
1046 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 11:30 pm to
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I am fine with it even if she won. She was born this way and determined female from birth due to the fact she has a vagina

I don’t view this in the prism of trans at all and without the trans movement of recent years I don’t think she would be getting much negativity


"She" wouldn't be there because everyone would state the obvious.

It's a dude.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108682 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 11:48 pm to
It’s “obvious” someone with a vagina is a dude?

It’s “obvious” someone that potentially menstruates is a dude?
Posted by GetMeOutOfHere
Member since Aug 2018
1046 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 12:04 pm to
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It’s “obvious” someone with a vagina is a dude?

It’s “obvious” someone that potentially menstruates is a dude?


Considering he failed a chromosome and testosterone test, I'm pretty sure neither of those are true.

I'm sure the east Germans back in the day were all natural, too.

Here's another male boxer fighting a woman in the Olympics, since that seems to be popular here:

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Posted by Trapped in time
Member since Mar 2023
515 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 1:17 pm to
I’m so confused


If being born with a vagina doesn’t qualify you as a girl, then what does?
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16559 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 1:36 pm to
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Considering he failed a chromosome and testosterone test, I'm pretty sure neither of those are true.


I suggest you look up Swyer Syndrome. People with this have everything a woman has except their ovaries don't develop. What do you do in this case?
This post was edited on 8/2/24 at 1:40 pm
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17360 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 1:58 pm to
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If being born with a vagina doesn’t qualify you as a girl, then what does?


The Rantards are struggling with this one given the way they typically approach this topic.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
48480 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 2:05 pm to
I am all for gender equality. Now that quitter needs to go sign up for the draft on her way out.
Posted by Run Ultra
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 8/2/24 at 2:06 pm to
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I suggest you look up Swyer Syndrome. People with this have everything a woman has except their ovaries don't develop. What do you do in this case?


Isn’t allowed to compete. Should apply to combat sports at the minimum
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
10968 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 2:26 pm to
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What do you do in this case?


You have a class for people with Swyer Syndrome and let them fight.

I find it odd that the same people that literally scream about women's rights have no problem with people who clearly aren't women beatng the frick out of women.

It's bizarre.
Posted by GetMeOutOfHere
Member since Aug 2018
1046 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 2:55 pm to
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Isn’t allowed to compete.


This is the answer (assuming that these guys have the condition in the first place, which I don't buy).
This post was edited on 8/2/24 at 2:56 pm
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16559 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 3:38 pm to
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You have a class for people with Swyer Syndrome and let them fight.

I find it odd that the same people that literally scream about women's rights have no problem with people who clearly aren't women beatng the frick out of women.

It's bizarre.


When aren't they women for you? Is it the genetic frick up, because they have the correct genitals, that never changed, they always had the vagina. Swyer isn't intersex, they just have female genitalia. didn't have to chop anything off, just a weird fricking rare genetic mishap. Do they need to have children? What about the XX women that can't have children? Are they not women? These people can carry a donor egg like a lot of XX woman can that have fricked up ovaries to full term and have successful babies through fertility treatments. They have working reproductive systems outside the ovaries.

I have no idea if this is what the Algerian has, just a weird arse scientific discussion. These people clearly are not men, male, or trans.
This post was edited on 8/2/24 at 3:41 pm
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 4:24 pm to
Yeah i dont think they should be able to compete if it gives them advantage but saying they aren't women is retarded.

If you castrate a dude it doesn't turn them into a female. It turns them into a master of whisperers
This post was edited on 8/2/24 at 4:25 pm
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42994 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 5:35 pm to
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The source was a member of the IBA. The IOC noted in its statement that it withdrew recognition of the IBA in 2023 due to corruption.
The IOC talking about corruption? OK.


IOC is corrupt unless you compare them to the IBA, then they look like chiorboys
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6754 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 5:59 pm to
Here is the easy solution.

If you are “intersex” or “hermaphrodite” or any other genetic frickup, you compete against men.

It’s that easy.
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
10968 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 6:55 pm to
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just a weird fricking rare genetic mishap.


You admit they aren't genetically a woman but ask me why they aren't women?

I stand by my statement. They should complete in their own category. Having genetic mishaps beating the frick out of women is wrong.

Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16559 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 7:26 pm to
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You admit they aren't genetically a woman but ask me why they aren't women? I stand by my statement. They should complete in their own category. Having genetic mishaps beating the frick out of women is wrong.


What do you consider someone with Swyers then? What would you say if that was your kid?

She isn’t exactly beating the frick out of women, she isn’t even the strongest in the Olympics. She’s not out there dominating, she is very mid pack. The Italian just got embarrassed. We aren’t even sure she has Swyers or is intersex.
This post was edited on 8/2/24 at 7:27 pm
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 7:49 pm to
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She isn’t exactly beating the frick out of women, she isn’t even the strongest in the Olympics. She’s not out there dominating, she is very mid pack. The Italian just got embarrassed.


Yeah, I don't get why people are overlooking this. Look at the Algerian's results against amateurs. She has finished 5 amateurs in almost 50 fights. The rest all went the distance. None of the finishes were KOs. Exactly one person had retired before the Olympics. A girl in her debut fight who now has a record of 1-3 being finished in all 3 losses. The vast majority of the Algerian's 45+ fights have been against inexperienced cans with a few fights. Almost anyone with 30+ fights has beaten the Algerian.

This Italian girl had 88 wins. She quit 46 seconds in to someone who has no knockout power against amateur cans? Quit the Olympics that she was supposedly fighting in her late father's honor?

Either the softest quitter of all time or a stunt for sympathy. Because the Algerian clearly doesn't have any kind of special power for the division.
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
10968 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 8:58 pm to
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Either the softest quitter of all time or a stunt for sympathy. Because the Algerian clearly doesn't have any kind of special power for the division.


Oh the they suck therefore it's ok defense lol.

I saw the punch that was landed and it was obviously harder than the woman was used to while boxing other women.

But continue the victim blaming it's going really really well and it actually quite typical.

Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16559 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 9:19 pm to
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Oh the they suck therefore it's ok defense lol. I saw the punch that was landed and it was obviously harder than the woman was used to while boxing other women. But continue the victim blaming it's going really really well and it actually quite typical.


This post was edited on 8/2/24 at 9:23 pm
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