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possibility of seafloor collapse?

Posted on 7/5/10 at 9:01 am
Posted by mikie421
continental shelf
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/5/10 at 9:01 am
is it possible that the seafloor could colapse near the well and cause a tsunami?
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28029 posts
Posted on 7/5/10 at 9:08 am to
frick no.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/5/10 at 9:26 am to
Posted by DaphneTigah
Flying under the radar.
Member since Dec 2007
4993 posts
Posted on 7/5/10 at 9:31 am to
I do not fault the OP question one bit.

With all of the info and blogs out there, it is really incredible what is being said. Some far left Libs are also saying that BP doesn't want to plug this well b/c the feds will close this lease and BP will never be able to produce this well.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
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Posted on 7/5/10 at 9:47 am to
NICE
Posted by EST
Investigating
Member since Oct 2003
18084 posts
Posted on 7/5/10 at 9:50 am to
I was listening to Coast to Coast am last night and the guest was discussing how everyone on the gulf coast - including N.O. - should be buying gas masks due to the toxins in the air from the oil gusher - says they are withholding air quality measurements on purpose. Says we are dying with every breath we take.

Anyone feeling sick lately?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59237 posts
Posted on 7/5/10 at 9:50 am to
Why is this a crazy question?
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 7/5/10 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Why is this a crazy question?

It's not a crazy question, just and old and tired German question!

Oily rain and cracks in the earth: Busting Gulf oil spill myths
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 7/5/10 at 10:02 am to
To the OP.....the question is nothing to be dismissed so easily. All of the assholes laughing at your question would have also laughed at the question of if this type of spill/disaster could happen in the first place and still be gushing millions of gallons per day 72 days later!

Could it happen, sure it could. The chances are pretty slim of that series of events occuring, but way stranger things have happend.
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 7/5/10 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Could it happen, sure it could. The chances are pretty slim of that series of events occuring, but way stranger things have happend.


No. It couldn't really. Could we get an underground blowout and more oil leaks that are impossible to control? Yes.

Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
60862 posts
Posted on 7/5/10 at 10:32 am to
quote:

Some far left Libs are also saying that BP doesn't want to plug this well b/c the feds will close this lease and BP will never be able to produce this well.


This is one of my favorites so far of the idiot ideas. I still hear it in conversations sometimes with normal people.
Posted by oilfieldtiger
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Dec 2003
2904 posts
Posted on 7/5/10 at 10:47 am to
there is the concept of reservoir compaction -- where the volume of oil, gas, and saltwater removed from an individual reservoir is so great that the reservoir actually compacts on itself.

reservoirs are not just giant pools of oil. they are rock, typically sandstone, w/ some combination of oil, gas, and saltwater existing in the individual pore spaces within the sandstone. so imagine your cement slab in your driveway as the sandstone, then imagine that the pore spaces within the cement are filled w/ oil & gas. that's a fair illustration of what a reservoir looks like.

over time, what can happen is that as the volume is removed from the pore spaces and the pressure decreases within the reservoir, the reservoir rock will be unable to resist the weight of the earth above it any more and start to compact.

this is a well understood phenomenon in petroleum engineering. some people may be familliar w/ the discovery channel specials on the phillips' ekofisk platform in the north sea, where this phenomenon occurred after many years of production, and the platform had to be jacked up and the legs lengthened to get it sufficiently above the water line again.

keep in mind that reservoir compaction on the order of a few feet over the entire thickness of the reservoir -- so like 5' over a 100' reservoir after a huge amount of volume and pressure has been removed. also, this is not a phenomenon that happens over night, it happens gradually over the producing life of the well.

for the record, there are reservoirs in the deepwater w/ multiple wells in them that are flowing at = or > total rates than the macondo well is blowing out today.
This post was edited on 7/5/10 at 10:50 am
Posted by Federal Tiger
Connecticut
Member since Dec 2007
7997 posts
Posted on 7/5/10 at 10:52 am to
We have had subsidence issues in the GoM. But nothing that would cause a tsunami.
Posted by oilfieldtiger
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Dec 2003
2904 posts
Posted on 7/5/10 at 10:58 am to
quote:

We have had subsidence issues in the GoM. But nothing that would cause a tsunami.

inland marshes of LA as well.

someone above posted about the possibility of an underground blowout -- which would happen if the 16" csg failed and allowed uncontrolled flow into a shallow reservoir. personally, i think that as long as they don't shut the well in at surface w/ the full oil column back to the reservoir, that is unlikely, as the path of least resistance continues to be to flow up to the mudline.
Posted by mikie421
continental shelf
Member since Nov 2008
791 posts
Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:26 pm to
how much of a sudden collapse would it take to cause a tsunami @ 5000'? 100'?
Posted by oilfieldtiger
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Dec 2003
2904 posts
Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:58 pm to
you'd have to find an oceanographer on that one.

although the point of my post was that compaction / subsidence is happening right now all over all of the producing regions in the world, and there's never been an oilfield related tidal wave.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 7/5/10 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

Why is this a crazy question?


Because the forces involved in a serious tsunami-generating seismic shift are vastly larger than anything this could possibly do.

Some people just have no concept of the enormous numerical differences involved here. And that is sad, almost as sad as bad spelling.
This post was edited on 7/5/10 at 1:13 pm
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 7/5/10 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

there are reservoirs in the deepwater w/ multiple wells in them that are flowing at = or > total rates than the macondo well is blowing out today.


Exactly.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
81721 posts
Posted on 7/5/10 at 5:58 pm to
Yes, we are all going to die
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
172452 posts
Posted on 7/6/10 at 11:38 am to
I have sad news to report to ya'll.

I work in Gretna. The past two times its rained hard here, i've noticed oil in the puddles in the parking lot. For those that laugh at the notion it can't rain oil, i dare you to look at the puddles. The proof is there.
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