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possibility of seafloor collapse?
Posted on 7/5/10 at 9:01 am
Posted on 7/5/10 at 9:01 am
is it possible that the seafloor could colapse near the well and cause a tsunami?
Posted on 7/5/10 at 9:31 am to foshizzle
I do not fault the OP question one bit.
With all of the info and blogs out there, it is really incredible what is being said. Some far left Libs are also saying that BP doesn't want to plug this well b/c the feds will close this lease and BP will never be able to produce this well.
With all of the info and blogs out there, it is really incredible what is being said. Some far left Libs are also saying that BP doesn't want to plug this well b/c the feds will close this lease and BP will never be able to produce this well.
Posted on 7/5/10 at 9:50 am to mikie421
I was listening to Coast to Coast am last night and the guest was discussing how everyone on the gulf coast - including N.O. - should be buying gas masks due to the toxins in the air from the oil gusher - says they are withholding air quality measurements on purpose. Says we are dying with every breath we take.
Anyone feeling sick lately?



Anyone feeling sick lately?


Posted on 7/5/10 at 9:50 am to SuperSaint
Why is this a crazy question?
Posted on 7/5/10 at 10:01 am to theunknownknight
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Why is this a crazy question?
It's not a crazy question, just and old and tired German question!
Oily rain and cracks in the earth: Busting Gulf oil spill myths
Posted on 7/5/10 at 10:02 am to theunknownknight
To the OP.....the question is nothing to be dismissed so easily. All of the assholes laughing at your question would have also laughed at the question of if this type of spill/disaster could happen in the first place and still be gushing millions of gallons per day 72 days later!
Could it happen, sure it could. The chances are pretty slim of that series of events occuring, but way stranger things have happend.
Could it happen, sure it could. The chances are pretty slim of that series of events occuring, but way stranger things have happend.
Posted on 7/5/10 at 10:28 am to the LSUSaint
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Could it happen, sure it could. The chances are pretty slim of that series of events occuring, but way stranger things have happend.
No. It couldn't really. Could we get an underground blowout and more oil leaks that are impossible to control? Yes.
Posted on 7/5/10 at 10:32 am to DaphneTigah
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Some far left Libs are also saying that BP doesn't want to plug this well b/c the feds will close this lease and BP will never be able to produce this well.
This is one of my favorites so far of the idiot ideas. I still hear it in conversations sometimes with normal people.
Posted on 7/5/10 at 10:47 am to the LSUSaint
there is the concept of reservoir compaction -- where the volume of oil, gas, and saltwater removed from an individual reservoir is so great that the reservoir actually compacts on itself.
reservoirs are not just giant pools of oil. they are rock, typically sandstone, w/ some combination of oil, gas, and saltwater existing in the individual pore spaces within the sandstone. so imagine your cement slab in your driveway as the sandstone, then imagine that the pore spaces within the cement are filled w/ oil & gas. that's a fair illustration of what a reservoir looks like.
over time, what can happen is that as the volume is removed from the pore spaces and the pressure decreases within the reservoir, the reservoir rock will be unable to resist the weight of the earth above it any more and start to compact.
this is a well understood phenomenon in petroleum engineering. some people may be familliar w/ the discovery channel specials on the phillips' ekofisk platform in the north sea, where this phenomenon occurred after many years of production, and the platform had to be jacked up and the legs lengthened to get it sufficiently above the water line again.
keep in mind that reservoir compaction on the order of a few feet over the entire thickness of the reservoir -- so like 5' over a 100' reservoir after a huge amount of volume and pressure has been removed. also, this is not a phenomenon that happens over night, it happens gradually over the producing life of the well.
for the record, there are reservoirs in the deepwater w/ multiple wells in them that are flowing at = or > total rates than the macondo well is blowing out today.
reservoirs are not just giant pools of oil. they are rock, typically sandstone, w/ some combination of oil, gas, and saltwater existing in the individual pore spaces within the sandstone. so imagine your cement slab in your driveway as the sandstone, then imagine that the pore spaces within the cement are filled w/ oil & gas. that's a fair illustration of what a reservoir looks like.
over time, what can happen is that as the volume is removed from the pore spaces and the pressure decreases within the reservoir, the reservoir rock will be unable to resist the weight of the earth above it any more and start to compact.
this is a well understood phenomenon in petroleum engineering. some people may be familliar w/ the discovery channel specials on the phillips' ekofisk platform in the north sea, where this phenomenon occurred after many years of production, and the platform had to be jacked up and the legs lengthened to get it sufficiently above the water line again.
keep in mind that reservoir compaction on the order of a few feet over the entire thickness of the reservoir -- so like 5' over a 100' reservoir after a huge amount of volume and pressure has been removed. also, this is not a phenomenon that happens over night, it happens gradually over the producing life of the well.
for the record, there are reservoirs in the deepwater w/ multiple wells in them that are flowing at = or > total rates than the macondo well is blowing out today.
This post was edited on 7/5/10 at 10:50 am
Posted on 7/5/10 at 10:52 am to oilfieldtiger
We have had subsidence issues in the GoM. But nothing that would cause a tsunami. 

Posted on 7/5/10 at 10:58 am to Federal Tiger
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We have had subsidence issues in the GoM. But nothing that would cause a tsunami.
inland marshes of LA as well.
someone above posted about the possibility of an underground blowout -- which would happen if the 16" csg failed and allowed uncontrolled flow into a shallow reservoir. personally, i think that as long as they don't shut the well in at surface w/ the full oil column back to the reservoir, that is unlikely, as the path of least resistance continues to be to flow up to the mudline.
Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:26 pm to oilfieldtiger
how much of a sudden collapse would it take to cause a tsunami @ 5000'? 100'?
Posted on 7/5/10 at 12:58 pm to mikie421
you'd have to find an oceanographer on that one.
although the point of my post was that compaction / subsidence is happening right now all over all of the producing regions in the world, and there's never been an oilfield related tidal wave.
although the point of my post was that compaction / subsidence is happening right now all over all of the producing regions in the world, and there's never been an oilfield related tidal wave.
Posted on 7/5/10 at 1:12 pm to theunknownknight
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Why is this a crazy question?
Because the forces involved in a serious tsunami-generating seismic shift are vastly larger than anything this could possibly do.
Some people just have no concept of the enormous numerical differences involved here. And that is sad, almost as sad as bad spelling.
This post was edited on 7/5/10 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 7/5/10 at 1:14 pm to oilfieldtiger
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there are reservoirs in the deepwater w/ multiple wells in them that are flowing at = or > total rates than the macondo well is blowing out today.
Exactly.
Posted on 7/5/10 at 5:58 pm to mikie421
Yes, we are all going to die
Posted on 7/6/10 at 11:38 am to TigerTatorTots
I have sad news to report to ya'll.
I work in Gretna. The past two times its rained hard here, i've noticed oil in the puddles in the parking lot. For those that laugh at the notion it can't rain oil, i dare you to look at the puddles. The proof is there.
I work in Gretna. The past two times its rained hard here, i've noticed oil in the puddles in the parking lot. For those that laugh at the notion it can't rain oil, i dare you to look at the puddles. The proof is there.
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