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re: Oil Spill and Offshore Fishing (Latest Developments)

Posted on 5/1/10 at 11:54 am to
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
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Posted on 5/1/10 at 11:54 am to
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Some wack job came on fox news and said we should shut down all drilling in the gulf. The Libs are out in full force
Yeah, then they'll blame $6 gas prices on Bush
Posted by LSUownsSEC
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Posted on 5/1/10 at 12:07 pm to
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eah, then they'll blame $6 gas prices on Bush


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Posted by BRip
Where
Member since Aug 2009
281 posts
Posted on 5/1/10 at 12:16 pm to
Another rig falls lol..... this just keeps getting better.....

LINK
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
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Posted on 5/1/10 at 12:19 pm to
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LSUownsSEC
WTF does that have to do with anything? It's called sarcasm dumbfrick
Posted by Greenspan
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Posted on 5/1/10 at 12:24 pm to
It was on it's way to a scrap yard when it fell so it obviously wasn't drilling and therefore unable to leak oil. You are a fricking idiot.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
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52188 posts
Posted on 5/1/10 at 12:28 pm to
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51612 posts
Posted on 5/1/10 at 1:10 pm to
BP has already retained 25 law firms. None in Mississippi yet although the big boys are all running as fast as they can to get retainers.
Posted by paulie
NOLA
Member since Dec 2007
675 posts
Posted on 5/1/10 at 1:14 pm to
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There's only one hole. You can't put more than one valve on the same hole.


True, but one could stack different manufactured valves on top of each other for diversity.

If manually actuating the BOP is not working it almost seems like something is stuck in there preventing the BOP from closing. Don't know. If that is the case then the shearing valve should be designed to shear through any of the equipment used in the drilling not just the pipe.

You would think they would be telling us more than they can't close the valve.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
9321 posts
Posted on 5/1/10 at 1:18 pm to
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Daphne Tiger


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You are a moron. Well then what do you do about the oil slick in the meantime...just forgot about it and let it wash up on our shores and marshes without a fight??


You are the moron bro. I didn't say we should do nothing.

I said that until the flow from the well is stopped efforts to contain the spill with "booms" and "fire" and "dispersants" are relatively useless. It's like pissing on a forest fire.

The booms are effective in relatively calm water, also if you boom off an inlet into the marsh, you have to factor in a pretty aggressive tide flowing. If a large amount of oil is trapped behind the boom (where the water is somewhat calmer) the tide will pull the oil under the boom and it will not be effective.
Dispersing the oil will work on the remainder once the majority is cleaned up, but with all of the oil bubbling up this is a drop in the bucket. Booms are not effective in rough water either.

My only point is that we should not but much hope and faith in anyones ability to contain the spill. Effort should be placed in stopping the flow, then clean up.

A lot of the things they are doing at least "show concern" and effort, but don't expect them to be able to contain it in this manner.

Just pray the flow is stopped soon.
Posted by nhassl1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
1932 posts
Posted on 5/1/10 at 1:30 pm to
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Re: the chemical dispersants It's my understanding that it will just break up the oil and not dissolve it and that the same amount of oil will be floating out there regardless. With that said, these chemical dispersants introduce new toxic chemicals into the environment...obviously making the water more toxic. I'm wondering if these dispersants are more of a cosmetic solution rather than a functional solution. And if they're just a cosmetic solution, why are we introducing more harmful chemicals into our environment? What are everyone else's thoughts on this



i think your dead on. what I've heard from biology and fish people(LSU Coastal Sciences Dept) is that it just takes it to the bottom. sooo we wont see it any more, but we'll still see all of the effects if not worse. if its left on the surface it can be skimmed. if its emulsified and sinks to the bottom it'll be there till the end of time in some form or fashion effecting all the life forms in the beginning of the food chain which will in turn put it in the rest of the fish we eat

This post was edited on 5/1/10 at 1:32 pm
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
9321 posts
Posted on 5/1/10 at 1:34 pm to

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the chemical dispersants


If they are using this in deep water in the open ocean its one thing.

Certainly they are smart enough not to spray this stuff in the marshes and bays
Posted by nhassl1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
1932 posts
Posted on 5/1/10 at 1:36 pm to
dont be so confident
Posted by nhassl1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
1932 posts
Posted on 5/1/10 at 1:36 pm to
and its all the same really. its all connected in the end
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 5/1/10 at 1:37 pm to
They're talking about the dispersants on CNN right now
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/1/10 at 1:51 pm to
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True, but one could stack different manufactured valves on top of each other for diversity.
These things aren't exactly small, or light weight. As it is a BOP stack is 15-20ft tall, and weights 40,000+ lbs. There's plenty of physical room on a subsea application on bottom, but one can't forget that all that has to be handled, stored, maintained topsides.

I dont' see what a second manufacturer buys anyway. The BOPs are all live tested with actual pipe on FAT. They are a remarkable simple device. They either work or they don't.
Posted by Dribble
Hey, nice marmot.
Member since Jun 2008
9576 posts
Posted on 5/1/10 at 1:53 pm to
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they don't
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69389 posts
Posted on 5/1/10 at 2:13 pm to
Obviously the systems will have to be re-designed after this.

Be it those acoustical shut-off valves or double BOPs, there will be changes made to the industry after this incident.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
9321 posts
Posted on 5/1/10 at 2:16 pm to

A system the ROV can plug into at depth. Provide power from the ROV to power up the system and engage the BOP.
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8347 posts
Posted on 5/1/10 at 2:19 pm to
This supposed interview with a survivor from the rig was pulled off of an industry website:

Supposed Survivor Interview

Posted by Dribble
Hey, nice marmot.
Member since Jun 2008
9576 posts
Posted on 5/1/10 at 2:25 pm to
Here is the EPA's website dedicated to the spill.

EPA Response to BP Spill

fwiw
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