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re: Oil Spill and Offshore Fishing (Latest Developments)
Posted on 4/30/10 at 1:30 pm to man in the stadium
Posted on 4/30/10 at 1:30 pm to man in the stadium
quote:nola.com
Posted by LarryDmanApril 30, 2010, 1:27PMThe Discoverer Enterprise, is arriving at the scene of the oil spill as I type. BP is building a dome (think Umbrella) and we will lower it on drill pipe until it is just above the upper end of the drill pipe flowing oil into the sea. Since oil floats in water, the oil will float up into the umbrella - like an inverted funnel, then into the drill pipe and up to the rig 5000 ft. above. I assume there will be a submersible pump at the top of the umbrella to promote good flow. The Enterprise is equipped with special hull tanks that can hold 135,000 barrels (1 barrel = 42 gallons) of crude. The well is flowing about 5000 BBLS per Day now. At that rate it can bunker 27 days worth. The Enterprise also has crude oil off loading capabilities with a floating transfer hose. As its tanks get full, it will transfer the crude to shuttle tankers that will transfer the crude oil to shore. With dynamic positioning capabilities, the Enterprise can stay within a 12 ft. circle of being dead over the drill pipe end 5000 ft. below it. I will guess that the dome is being built 30 or 40 ft. in diameter. It can maintain station in as much as 90 knot winds across the bow. And we use our thrusters to also weather vane the rig so the wind is always over the bow. So, it can maintain station in a moderate hurricane.
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Posted on 4/30/10 at 1:33 pm to nhassl1
Theoretically this sounds good, but how effective will it be in practice?
Posted on 4/30/10 at 1:33 pm to Bellabama
.. and how long will it take to build?
Posted on 4/30/10 at 1:33 pm to TigerinATL
quote:Look, I'm not trying to minimize any actual impact that may occur. Not a damn thing's happened yet. But everyone's running around in a breathless panic. Too early for that I'm sure they are scared just like everybody else. But to say that fisherman will have to permanently move because there will be no fish in the GOM is silly.
Elaborate please because the local fisherman they've interviewed have acted like they will have to permanently move, not be out of business for just a year.
There's still fish and wildlife in Prince William Sound. Which is many, many orders of magnitude more fragile than the gulf coast wetlands. This spill may end up being as many gallons as the Valdez. But... it will be spread out over a much wider area. PWS captured and funnelled all of the oil into one single place, rather than dispersing it. It's just not the same thing.
This post was edited on 4/30/10 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 4/30/10 at 1:34 pm to nhassl1
Sounds like a good idea to me 
Posted on 4/30/10 at 1:35 pm to man in the stadium
If it keeps it out of upper Barataria Bay and Breton Sound, it's doing something. Worst case, it might preserve a reservoir that can be used to repopulate the rest years from now.
Posted on 4/30/10 at 1:35 pm to Bellabama
quote:
Theoretically this sounds good, but how effective will it be in practice?
amd how long will it take to get all of this in place and functional?
Posted on 4/30/10 at 1:35 pm to Solo
quote:
In all seriousness, shouldn't the 101st and 82nd Airborne be depolyed into the marshes to help with clean-up? Also, National Guard batalions from around the country?
These guys are trained to fight, not to trudge around through the marsh in hazmat suits and try to pick up oil floating in the water.
I can see the national guard engineering batallions being deployed to areas with beaches and defined accessible shorelines to remove sand and such with heavy equipment, but I do not see how combat troops could do anything but get in the way.
This post was edited on 4/30/10 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 4/30/10 at 1:37 pm to DeltaDoc
it def wont keep it out of breton sound... barataria probably not either. Hopefully this will keep it from impacting FL.
Posted on 4/30/10 at 1:40 pm to eye65
Posted on 4/30/10 at 1:42 pm to RockChalkTiger
maybe they have some really great news to tell us and they are just creating suspense....
Posted on 4/30/10 at 1:45 pm to nhassl1
quote:
we will lower it on drill pipe
Will they have to disconnect the DH's riser first? Can they even do that?
It seems like dropping the dome over the BOP won't stop the flow if the old riser is still sticking out from under the dome and leaking in several places.
Posted on 4/30/10 at 1:45 pm to eye65
Hopefully it's that, and not that something really bad happened and they don't want to tell us.
Posted on 4/30/10 at 1:52 pm to Bellabama
quote:
Theoretically this sounds good, but how effective will it be in practice?
Nobody knows, because it's never been attempted in water even close to this deep.
Posted on 4/30/10 at 1:54 pm to Schwartz
Russel Honore on CNN now requesting that this be declared a national disaster sooner than later....maybe someone will be listening.
Posted on 4/30/10 at 1:58 pm to eye65
quote:
Russel Honore
"Stuck on stupid!"
Great quote. SU represent!
This post was edited on 4/30/10 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 4/30/10 at 2:01 pm to ItTakesAThief
quote:
I can see the national guard engineering batallions being deployed to areas with beaches and defined accessible shorelines to remove sand and such with heavy equipment, but I do not see how combat troops could do anything but get in the way.
I agree. Plus I would add the Navy Sea Bees to the list of those i would think could help.
Posted on 4/30/10 at 2:03 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:
PWS captured and funnelled all of the oil into one single place, rather than dispersing it.
doesn't this also make focusing cleaning efforts easier?
Posted on 4/30/10 at 2:04 pm to el tigre
So the presser still hasnt started yet?
Posted on 4/30/10 at 2:04 pm to nhassl1
I hope they have a lot shop vacs
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