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re: Oil Spill and Offshore Fishing (Latest Developments)

Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:46 am to
Posted by Alatgr
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Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:46 am to
Another question for the experts-how effective will that all that floating boom be in the 5+ foot seas that are predicted for the next 5 days? Cause I'm guessing not at all.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:47 am to
quote:

how effective will that all that floating boom be in the 5+ foot seas


Will not be effective at all
Posted by tigerdup07
Member since Dec 2007
22268 posts
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:48 am to
quote:

Is this the BOP that failed?


no. those are surface stacks. not subsea.

Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:49 am to
...and the wave action will emulsify the oil, making it more difficult to skim when the sea state does settle down.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476636 posts
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:50 am to
sounds like Cameron and Holly Beach will be the new Grand Isle
Posted by tigerdup07
Member since Dec 2007
22268 posts
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:51 am to
listen up- there is no valve that is screwed/unscrewed. the bop is equipped with accumulator bottles with stored pressure that activate the rams once the rov pushes/pulls on a lever.

now- many things could have happened. ex.- the lever could have broke. the bottles could have lost all pressure during the kick. there are so many variables here.

Posted by Alatgr
Mobeezy, Alabizzle
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:56 am to
Sweet. So sounds like the next press conference should be:

"We are totally screwed. There isn't shite we can do to stop it. We reccommend everyone go ahead and start panicking. Any questions?"
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
28124 posts
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:04 am to
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Alatgr


Bob at WWL Radio just called out Mary Landreu. I wonder if she is related to Mary Landry at the Coast Guard? Neither one of them know what the hell they are doing. Basically she said there is nothing we can do. She said we have to construct a funnel, which will take 4 weeks to do. Why didn't they have this in place ready to go?

First, they need to shut the leak. Then keep what is already out contained before it reaches the coast.

Another cluster frick by our great goverment. And people want them to do more for us! If BP can't contain it, then we have to fall back on the government and they will fail again. What a joke!
This post was edited on 4/29/10 at 10:06 am
Posted by chris44gwlsu
Magdeburg, Germany
Member since Jan 2008
1180 posts
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:06 am to
I heard that to. I know he was getting at her but she needs to get a little more on it. I'm all with staying calm but I'd like, no, there has to be a bigger since of urgency. The stakes are very high.
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
11119 posts
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:08 am to
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Another cluster frick by our great goverment


Whoa, there big fella. Was this a government owned rig? Government equipment? Government responsible for the response? Why is it when private industry fricks up and government fails to fix it, it becomes a government failure?

And who's going to build the domes and keep one right next to every rig? How much will that cost? Should we raise taxes to pay for them? Or does the government need to regulate the industry more to make sure they have them?

This is a collective failure. Never should have happened in the first place, but Deepwater Horizon passed government inspections, as have all the other rigs working in the Gulf. Want to guess what it would look like without someone there to inspect it and keep the operators honest?

And, Alagtr, that is basically what they said at the presser last night. Only their lawyers won't let them say that directly.
This post was edited on 4/29/10 at 10:17 am
Posted by Alatgr
Mobeezy, Alabizzle
Member since Sep 2005
18113 posts
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:10 am to
I think its all for show. Until they can get the ACME Wiley Coyote Underwater Dome Oil Leak Sucker Upper on site and working, or a relief well drilled, there's nothing that can be done.
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
11119 posts
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:13 am to
quote:

Mary Landry

Bio
At least she's from Buffalo, so she's familiar with with crappy, polluted, oily water.

ETA: and her "experience" is with the Buzzard's Bay spill, which was 98,000 gallons.
LINK
This one releases that much oil every 12 hours.
This post was edited on 4/29/10 at 10:22 am
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:19 am to
Wonder how long it's gong to be before we see executives from both BP and Transocean getting grilled in front of Congress.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
28124 posts
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:20 am to
quote:

Whoa, there big fella. Was this a government owned rig? Government equipment? Government responsible for the response? Why is it when private industry fricks up and government fails to fix it, it becomes a government failure?


True, plenty of blame to pass around, but if the private sector can't fix this, then what else are we supposed to go to but the government. This sounds like the former governor saying I asked for help from the feds and them saying that they did not hear from them. Someone needs to grab the bull by the horns and quit talking and do something. But we will probably wait till the oil is on the coast and then try to fix it. Glad I don't fish or I would really be pissed. I feel bad for the fisherman and the landowners by the coast, cause they will be in for some real trouble.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25907 posts
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:24 am to
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Want to guess what it would look like without someone there to inspect it and keep the operators honest?


Iraq is a good example. None of those rigs had BOPs installed.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:26 am to
I dont see why the military cannot just blow the frickin shite out of the well where the oil is leaking from?

Isnt that how Boots and Coots stops well fires on land?

Isnt that the same concept of what is going on right now?


Boots and Coots
This post was edited on 4/29/10 at 10:27 am
Posted by Schwartz
Member since Nov 2006
27097 posts
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:27 am to
So you want them to blow up a pipe that's underwater, causing the hole in the pipe to get larger, and therefore increase the flow of oil?

You're not too bright.
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
11119 posts
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:27 am to
quote:

what else are we supposed to go to but the government.


Agree. Often federal authorities are the only ones that can marshal sufficient resources to respond to major natural disasters (see Katrina). Which is why a "big" adequately-funded government is not always a bad thing.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:28 am to
quote:

So you want them to blow up a pipe that's underwater, causing the hole in the pipe to get larger, and therefore increase the flow of oil?


No I want them to blow up the hole that the oil is spewing out of from the earth causing it to close.
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
11119 posts
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:28 am to
I think the explosion is to put the fire out (temporarily deny it oxygen) so they can get in there and cap it. Doesn't really stop the flow.

But it does make you wonder if there isn't some way to plug the hole.
This post was edited on 4/29/10 at 10:30 am
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