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re: Oil Spill and Offshore Fishing (Latest Developments)
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:03 am to eye65
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:03 am to eye65
quote:
another article i just read stated that it did not matter where it hit this weekend. as the oil continues to flow and the tides, currents and winds change eventually the entire gulf may be affected.
Is it just me or does it seem kind of odd that there's a lot of intel about how much effort is being put into the clean-up and yet I read "landfall immanent". Am I being totally unreasonable to assume that we would have a better plan in place for such an incident? there are more than just a couple rigs out there.Was BP thinking "Worst case scenarios" and "could happen" are lost philosophies that only happen to other companies?
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Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:11 am to Tommy Patel
Is this the BOP that failed?
This post was edited on 4/29/10 at 9:14 am
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:14 am to Tommy Patel
quote:
Am I being totally unreasonable to assume that we would have a better plan in place for such an incident?
Yes. That's like asking if it was unreasonable to assume a better plan in place for 9/11 or Katrina.
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:15 am to LNCHBOX
quote:Did 911 and katrina have safety equipment that failed?
Yes. That's like asking if it was unreasonable to assume a better plan in place for 9/11 or Katrina.
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:17 am to meauxjeaux2
Katrina sure as hell did.
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:18 am to meauxjeaux2
A similar argument could be made regarding airport security and 9/11.
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:19 am to DeltaDoc
Are we really in for some trouble with this? I know it is 15 miles from the coast, but WWL is basically saying it will get onshore tonight and our seafood industry will be screwed for the foreseeable future.
Why wasn't something done starting Friday, when the search was called off for survivors? It has been almost a week now and they have done nothing.
Why wasn't something done starting Friday, when the search was called off for survivors? It has been almost a week now and they have done nothing.
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:21 am to LNCHBOX
quote:touche'
Katrina sure as hell did.
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:24 am to LNCHBOX
question.
With this new news regarding the added amount of oil escaping,could this be the result of one of the R.O.V's down there turning the wrong thing and making the oil leak out faster?
With this new news regarding the added amount of oil escaping,could this be the result of one of the R.O.V's down there turning the wrong thing and making the oil leak out faster?
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:25 am to Bussemer
Do those models take into account the fact that the slick is getting bigger by thousands of barrels a day? Cause it doesn't look like it. Which means we're extra fricked.
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:31 am to Alatgr
quote:
Do those models take into account the fact that the slick is getting bigger by thousands of barrels a day? Cause it doesn't look like it. Which means we're extra fricked.
yes
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:33 am to meauxjeaux2
quote:
...could this be the result of one of the R.O.V's down there turning the wrong thing and making the oil leak out faster?
I doubt it. I'm sure it's more complicated than "righty, tighty" and lefty, loosey"; but I doubt the ROV operations exacerbated the problem.
My GUESS is that it is difficult to estimated the flow rate of one liquid into another liquid, 5,000' below sea level.
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:33 am to nhassl1
but it is still just a best guess with known considerations. if they can hardly accurately predict the weather the next day how accurate do think their predictions are? they have to take into account wave action, currents, and wind.
This post was edited on 4/29/10 at 9:35 am
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:33 am to meauxjeaux2
quote:
With this new news regarding the added amount of oil escaping,could this be the result of one of the R.O.V's down there turning the wrong thing and making the oil leak out faster?
I have no clue.
I doubt it, but I base that on absolutely nothing.
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:36 am to Weaver
quote:Wrong. Clean up crews have been on site since day one.
Why wasn't something done starting Friday, when the search was called off for survivors? It has been almost a week now and they have done nothing.
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:39 am to White Roach
I'm assuming the wellhead was flowing all along, even though it was reported not to be after the rig sank. That was crude feeding the fire for 36 hours, wasn't it? Could the 700,000g of diesel onboard fueled the fire for 36 hours?
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:40 am to LNCHBOX
So those ROVs are suppose to shut the oil flow off? And the subs are suppose to be able to do this? So where is the valve or screw or lever that does this on the ROV (in pic)?
Maybe they need to design one with a big ON-OFF lever?
Maybe since this is going to costs them over 200 million dollars they maybe just might want to think and design something a little simplier?
JUST MAYBE?
Maybe they need to design one with a big ON-OFF lever?
Maybe since this is going to costs them over 200 million dollars they maybe just might want to think and design something a little simplier?
JUST MAYBE?
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:41 am to ForeverLSU02
quote:
Wrong. Clean up crews have been on site since day one.
Really? I asked about clean up on day 2 and there didn't appear to be any clean up efforts underway at that time.
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:43 am to tgrgrd00
quote:
Really? I asked about clean up on day 2 and there didn't appear to be any clean up efforts underway at that time.
At that point almost all the oil was being burned up in the fire because the riser was still attached to the BOP and the MODU. That situation changed when the rig sunk.
Posted on 4/29/10 at 9:45 am to tgrgrd00
quote:
Really? I asked about clean up on day 2 and there didn't appear to be any clean up efforts underway at that time.
Thats because there wasnt any clean up operation initialized at that time. They were in search and rescue mode and just trying to contain the fuel/oil that was leaking, not a full fledged clean up operation as they are in now and have been since last Friday.
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