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re: Oil Spill and Offshore Fishing (Latest Developments)
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:30 am to tgrbaitn08
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:30 am to tgrbaitn08
At this point I don't see why any idea shouldn't at least be considered.
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Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:30 am to tgrbaitn08
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Isnt that how Boots and Coots stops well fires on land?
Only problem is that this won't work in 4k+ feet of water as nothing is on fire. Seems to me that they could pinch off the riser some kind of way. But then again working that deep they may as well be on the moon.
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:33 am to bayoudude
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Only problem is that this won't work in 4k+ feet of water as nothing is on fire. Seems to me that they could pinch off the riser some kind of way. But then again working that deep they may as well be on the moon.
Right I understand that, but there has got to be some sort of correlation. Same concept just have to approach it in a different manner.
I dont think they can pinch off the riser due to the fact that there seems to me multiple breaks close to the BOP
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:37 am to tgrbaitn08
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I dont think they can pinch off the riser due to the fact that there seems to me multiple breaks close to the BOP
The only methods to kill this are either to close the rams on the BOP or to drill a relief well to pump heavily weighted mud and cement to kill the formation. Trying to plug holes in the riser right now is akin to "pissing in the wind". That is pretty much what BP is proceeding with. The problem which is becoming evident to everyone (albeit some more slowly than others) is what to do with the oil which spills while this procedure is ongoing. My question is why the oil was not lit on fire soon after the rig sank thereby burning a good deal of the oil near the spill sight. The variable that could have prevented this is that deepwater currents are surfacing the oil over a much broader area.
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:39 am to tgrbaitn08
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I dont think they can pinch off the riser due to the fact that there seems to me multiple breaks close to the BOP
If that is the case then they are truly fricked and the only options are a relief well or try the bell and capture the oil which has never been tried at these depths. Blowing it up won't solve anything as the hole is there and will just keep seeping as long as the well has pressure. Seems like they would be able to collapse the pocket some way and get the well to sand in and seal itself. I know they can collapse a well if they try to suck too hard.
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:40 am to TigerDog83
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y question is why the oil was not lit on fire soon after the rig sank thereby burning a good deal of the oil near the spill sight.
Because it would have hampered the search and rescue efforts, disrupted other drilling and production activities, and it would have created a safety hazard with operations to stop the flow at the BOP.
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:44 am to TigerFred
not to mention it would have killed all the fish and marine life in the area. everything they do has to take into account the eco impacts. and yes i realize fire is on top of the water and fish are below. save the bs comments.
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:45 am to TigerFred
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Because it would have hampered the search and rescue efforts, disrupted other drilling and production activities, and it would have created a safety hazard with operations to stop the flow at the BOP.
That's a good point I forgot that at that point they were still fairly confident about being able to close the BOP's. It will be extremely interesting to find out why the BOP didn't shut the well in, especially why the dead man didn't engage. Exxon already evacuated a rig in MC. Any word on if other rigs and platforms will have to be abandoned, especially in VK, MP, and MC where it appears the oil is present in thicker surface accumulations?
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:45 am to TigerFred
On another note, has anyone noticed BP and Tranoceans stocks taking a dive the past couple of days.
Transocean Stock
BP Stock
And how this spill will affect the Seafood Industry
Transocean Stock
BP Stock
And how this spill will affect the Seafood Industry
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:48 am to Schwartz
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causing the hole in the pipe to get larger, and therefore increase the flow of oil?
Its not the size of the hole, or number of holes in the pipe that effects the amount of oil coming out. Think faucet and hose. Its the faucet that governs the amount of water coming out-doesn't matter how many holes you have in the hose or how big the holes are.
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:48 am to RockChalkTiger
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Which is why a "big" adequately-funded government is not always a bad thing.
When such agencies are limited to Defense, Homeland Security, and Emergency response. NOT Social feel good programs, which is a topic for Poli Board.
The question I have relates to the 75 - 100 ft columns being stacked and on stand-by in Port Fourchon right now.... What are they for and how are they going to be used in this process? There was a picture earlier which indicated they were for containing the oil water mixture?
Thanks in Advance, and God Bless the missing souls, their friends and families, and those currently or potentially affected, which unfortunately seems to be a number growing by the minute....
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:49 am to TigerDog83
8 is (or was) Horizon, so you can see there's quite a few floaters, drillships, etc around it.
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Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:51 am to tgrbaitn08
Oh yeah their stock prices are dropping. Check their stock prices on the international markets.
I haven't heard much from the international people that I deal with on their perception of this incident.
OTC is next week in Houston and I am sure that this incident will be the topic of many discussions.
I haven't heard much from the international people that I deal with on their perception of this incident.
OTC is next week in Houston and I am sure that this incident will be the topic of many discussions.
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:51 am to Bussemer
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8 is (or was) Horizon, so you can see there's quite a few floaters, drillships, etc around it.
I think that map is a little dated since it shows Horizon at MC 775 (Thunderhorse) when we know the rig was at MC 252 on Macondo when the blowout occurred.
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:53 am to Bussemer
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:54 am to TigerDog83
frick, I didnt even look closely.
I'll see if I can get a better one off of Hilton's
I'll see if I can get a better one off of Hilton's
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:56 am to TigerFred
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Oh yeah their stock prices are dropping.
I just sold the TO stock that I have. Gonna wait and see what happens..
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OTC is next week in Houston
See ya at Treasures?
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:57 am to jeffsdad
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So those ROVs are suppose to shut the oil flow off? And the subs are suppose to be able to do this? So where is the valve or screw or lever that does this on the ROV (in pic)?
Maybe they need to design one with a big ON-OFF lever?
Maybe since this is going to costs them over 200 million dollars they maybe just might want to think and design something a little simplier?
JUST MAYBE?
You really need to stop... again. If it was that easy, the engineers would design it that way. Enough of your nonsense.
Posted on 4/29/10 at 10:58 am to LNCHBOX
Sorry it's so big, I suck at the internet. If you look closely you can see Marlin, Beercan, Ram Powell, etc..
Posted on 4/29/10 at 11:01 am to LNCHBOX
Not to sound like an alarmist, but is there currently (with at least two weeks away from the dome structure being in place and with estimates of the spill going up daily) reason to believe that this will not meet or exceed the environmental impact of the Exxon Valdez?
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