re: Links to live feeds from remotely operated vehicles (ROV)

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live feed AND TOP KILL discussion
Not sure what a hot tap is, but if they have the equipment, why not just clamp the riser, even if it is past the main leak and shuts down the smaller leaks? Leaks are letting pressure escape and they are trying to find ways to increas the pressure to go down the well.

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think of it like this.

your hose is running and you have 4 holes. the biggest hole is closest to the spout. so you kink the hose between the first and the second hole. what's gonna happen to the first (bigger) hole?

Been out a while. From what I'm seeing look like we right back where we started/ That is straight oil i'm lookin at?

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so you kink the hose between the first and the second hole

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If there's a strong of drill pipe inside that hose, I don't think you are going to crimp it.

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now nothings a sure thing and this is all experimental but I am aggravated that the "Best and brightest in the world" thought that they could pump down the path of MOST resistance.

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Remind me, what would you have done? I am not jacking with you, I am really curious.

Well first let me give you a bit of background. I am a licensed General Contractor both Commercial and Residential. My father is a General Contractor for the last 40 years up till Katrina was our Family Business. I have wired houses myself and I have done the plumbing in two of my own houses. (with my own hands)

Having said that I really did not think that any of this would work without clogging up at least partially the open end of the riser. (You can check my post history)


I personally think the concentration needs to move to multiple methods of capturing the oil on the surface of the water. Tankers like the Shell CEO said.

I think BP and the rest of the OIL co. know this thing will not be shut off until the relief well shuts it off

Also in my post history you will see that I admit to not knowing shite when it comes to drilling for oil.....just know about plumbing in buildings and swimming pools.

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Having said that I really did not think that any of this would work without clogging up at least partially the open end of the riser. (You can check my post history)

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I'm with you. I thought the idea was that if you got a net gain on the mud, then you would push the oil column down and then have a static well. So, for example, if the volume of the well and the riser was 2,500 barrels, then you would need roughly that much to fill it up. Once full, the weight of the mud will keep it from leaking. If you pumped 1000 barrels and hour and leaked 750 and hour, then, if you kept pumping, you would kill the well after ten hours of pumping. So it does not matter that you have an open system, as long as you can pump in a net gain that will get there in a short enough time. That is the whole purpose of a dynamic kill, which is always in an open system. You are just racing the leak.

To my engineer buddies, I know this is simplistic, that, among other things, there is a sea pressure boost and that you wouldn't need a full column to hold the oil down. I'm just trying to express the concept as I understand it.

I think that they hoped for the best and can't fault them for at least trying. It doesn't seem like this had any downside other than the comparably-mild effect of all the drilling mud escaping into the sea. Would it have been possible to reverse the direction of the siphon and pump mud through the insertion tool at the same time they are pumping mud into the BOP?

My guess is the insertion tube holds no pressure therefore leaving it in would have been worthless.

I'm just frustrated like everybody...I mean 60 to 70% its gonna work then we are not leaking oil just mud. We wont know till Sunday if it works. Then this shite combined with bussed in workers....i'm just starting to feel like it is just a big Dog and Pony show.

Let me be clear while im moaning like a bitch....I appreciate all those that have truly worked tirelessly to try to get this shut off.

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I now nothings a sure thing and this is all experimental but I am aggravated that the "Best and brightest in the world" thought that they could pump down the path of MOST resistance. This was pumping down one side of a T while the other remained open.

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It's all about pressure. It's not an all-or-nothing proposition as suggested by the phrase "least resistance". Most of the mud will flow out the leaks but not all. How much will flow out the leaks depends on how big they are.

Take a soda straw and put it in a glass of water. Put a pinhole in the straw above the water line. Blow in the straw hard enough and you can still force air though the bottom of the straw to make bubbles. Keep making pinholes and eventually you will reach a point where you can't make bubbles any more. But if you blow even harder you can. So their hope was that they could push with enough pressure to "outrun" the leaks. That didn't happen so they tried plugging some of the leaks. That still didn't work so now they move on to the next thing. Even though it didn't work, it was still worth a try.

Well...we're 0 for 2. Hopefully 3rd times a charm.