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Posted on 5/3/10 at 8:02 pm to pochejp
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The more you say the more you prove the point everyone reading this knows. Stop now.
So the federal government can force states to drill off their coast? If they can please explain how states veto drilling all the time. I remember LA having final say in having LNG terminals off the coast and there was nothing the MMS could do about it.
All you keep doing is insinuating that I am stupid but you haven't provided any relevant argument.
Posted on 5/3/10 at 8:04 pm to el tigre
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agreed, but we have ourselves largely to blame.
True...but we have the leverage to reverse what has happened in the past.
Posted on 5/3/10 at 8:45 pm to tgrgrd00
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True...but we have the leverage to reverse what has happened in the past.
sorry, but in the game of oil/gas might would equal right in your scenario. We don't have leverage in the game of force.
Posted on 5/3/10 at 9:57 pm to tgrgrd00
The fact of the matter is there are teams working around the clock to fix this issue. The parties involved wanted it done yesterday. Every day the press hypes this is bad for the oil industry. It is not about government stepping in or BP moving faster. The solution is very difficult and unknown at this time.
Posted on 5/4/10 at 8:14 am to TexasTiger89
TX & MS claim the first 10 miles offshore. LA only claims the first 3. Hell just increase it to 10 like our neighbors and LA's deficit will go away quickly.
On a side note, I'm glad this is a federal matter and Obama has screwed it up so bad. Just one more thing that won't get him re-elected for another term.
On a side note, I'm glad this is a federal matter and Obama has screwed it up so bad. Just one more thing that won't get him re-elected for another term.
Posted on 5/4/10 at 9:08 am to TopWaterTiger
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Hell just increase it to 10 like our neighbors and LA's deficit will go away quickly.
Or just make everyone equal in what they receive. Why have 3 miles or 10 miles or whatever? That is silly. Technology has changed to allow us to go out so far that it has surpassed the "rules" that were written 80 years ago. The feds are just taking advanatag of old laws that are now tilted in their favor.
Oh and another thing. Why do states like New Mexico get like 50% of revenues from federally owned lands??? wtf is that about?
Posted on 5/4/10 at 9:18 am to ottothewise
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The process of breaking up the rock layer 15,000 feet down, requires water. Where does the processed water go? And who is guaranteeing the process yeilds clean water?
Otto, 99% of the water is recycled and used in subsequent frac jobs. When the small percentage of water is unusable, it is crystalized and shipped to an EPA approved landfill. The Monogehela river's worst enemy is coal extraction and TDS from runoff.
Posted on 5/4/10 at 9:28 am to tgrgrd00
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All you keep doing is insinuating that I am stupid
We're not insinuating.
Posted on 5/4/10 at 9:43 am to TopWaterTiger
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On a side note, I'm glad this is a federal matter and Obama has screwed it up so bad. Just one more thing that won't get him re-elected for another term.
Quit playing this silly game. The only people who screwed up are the ones who caused this accident.
Posted on 5/4/10 at 9:54 am to tgrgrd00
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It is time to shut down all oil and gas activity off of the LA coast until Louisiana receives a significantly greater share of revenues from offshore oil/gas activity
Good way to bite the hand that feeds you. LA unemployment would shoot up to 20%+
Posted on 5/4/10 at 9:59 am to notiger1997
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Quit playing this silly game. The only people who screwed up are the ones who caused this accident.
Posted on 5/4/10 at 10:44 am to pochejp
Jindal has too many backs to scratch. He does have a good pr image, so I think he'll come out on top when this is all said and done.
Posted on 5/4/10 at 11:17 am to tgrgrd00
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Maybe then the rest of the country will realize how important LA is to the rest of the country and will stop shitting all over us at every opportunity.
Posted on 5/4/10 at 12:03 pm to tgrgrd00
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After seeing the shoddy protection and apparent lack of effort by those in charge to protect Louisiana's fragile coast Jindal needs to send a message to the country that Louisiana will no longer accept half arse effort and empty promises.
Jindal will be told to suck on his pacifier and sit in the corner. He has no leverage, and will need to play nice for federal handouts. He can't dictate what occurs on the "high seas," nor can he dictate terms to multi-national corporations based elsewhere.
Even if he doesn't violate interstate commerce, and wanted to shut down oil in Louisiana...it would be necessary that Louisiana offers a service that isn't offered outside this state. With that said, what does Louisiana have, that TX, MS, AL, FL, or even Mexico wouldn't happily absorb for its own citizens???
Posted on 5/4/10 at 1:59 pm to lsuconnman
Problem with this argument is that the US economy can hold out without Louisiana's oil, much longer than Louisiana can economically hold out with out producing it.
So if you want to wreck the Louisiana economy go right ahead.
In general people do not respond to black mail very well.
Posted on 5/4/10 at 7:19 pm to el tigre
its a shame Louisiana is the only state that doesn't receive the royalties. The feds are making bank on our fragile coastline and we receive only money from the feds when we beg or a hurricane hits our coast.
Posted on 5/4/10 at 8:49 pm to pochejp
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It is time to shut down all oil and gas activity off of the LA coast until Louisiana receives a significantly greater share of revenues from offshore oil/gas activity. These much increased revenues will be used to prepare for, clean up, protect and rebuild our coastlines
I think by 2018 we should be receiving our full allotment of the offshore oil royalties
Posted on 5/4/10 at 8:55 pm to sheek
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its a shame Louisiana is the only state that doesn't receive the royalties
We are receiving royalties, just not on stuff as far off the coast and/or not as high a percentage. Our politicians from the state agreed to that deal many many years ago and very much hurt us.
The law has been changed, but as others have pointed out, it will be a long time before it really goes into effect.
Posted on 5/4/10 at 9:20 pm to ike221
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I think by 2018 we should be receiving our full allotment of the offshore oil royalties
orly?
Pay attention...Read these articles. They are trying to rape us again. One day you people will wake up.
1) 3 Senate Democrats Urge Rejection of Revenue-Sharing Proposal for Offshore Drilling
2) There is not going to be any drilling unless there is revenue sharing
Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) on Monday returned political fire at a trio of senior Democrats who don’t want coastal states to receive a guaranteed share of the revenues from oil-and-gas production in federal waters off their shores.
Landrieu’s comments came in response to a ‘dear colleague’ letter circulated by Sens. Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.), Byron Dorgan (D-N.D.) and Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) that calls on senators to oppose revenue sharing.
A 2006 law that expanded Gulf of Mexico drilling handed a 37.5 percent share of revenues from certain leases to Louisiana and three other gulf states.
But Bingaman, Dorgan and Rockefeller don’t want that deal expanded through climate and energy legislation that may come to the floor this year – they’re warning that the federal government could eventually lose hundreds of billions of dollars.
Landrieu, for her part, argues that the current system is unfair because onshore states get half the revenues from oil-and-gas leasing on federal lands within their boundaries.
This aids “mostly Western interior states that have large portions of federal land” within their borders, while “most states do not receive a penny from the federal government when energy production takes place off its shores” she said in a prepared statement Monday.
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