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re: Zoo Kills Gorilla to Protect Small Child in Enclosure
Posted on 5/31/16 at 11:47 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 5/31/16 at 11:47 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
This entire incident boils down to "shite happens."
The zoo isn't at fault, the child isn't at fault and the parents arent at fault.
I agree 100%, and that was sort of my point in my earlier post.
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 12:01 pm to AFtigerFan
Jesus Christ. Having a 4 year old son, that just blows my mind that is the only Barrier between the public and the habitat. It would literally take my boy 5 seconds to be over that wall and through the bushes.
That Zoo is extremely lucky this was the first time honestly. Seeing that diagram changes my whole view of the situation.
That Zoo is extremely lucky this was the first time honestly. Seeing that diagram changes my whole view of the situation.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 12:12 pm to Jizzamo311
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That Zoo is extremely lucky this was the first time honestly. Seeing that diagram changes my whole view of the situation.
I've been to that zoo at least 5 times with my daughter (now 4 years old), and the diagram doesn't change my view of the situation. It's plainly obvious when you are at that exhibit that you don't want your kid to go through that fence.
I just recently visited the Columbus zoo, and the area that does the cheetah run (and warthogs when the cheetahs aren't in there) has a fence that can easily be climbed over by a kid, and there's no net to catch anyone. The point is, don't let your kid climb over or through a fence.
The Audubon Zoo in New Orleans has inherent dangers like this as well in at least the swamp exhibit. It's amazing that in x amount of years, no one has fallen in and either drowned, been eaten by an alligator, etc. At least that's what people would have you believe.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 12:27 pm to slackster
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:29 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
This entire incident boils down to "shite happens."
The zoo isn't at fault, the child isn't at fault and the parents arent at fault.
This I could agree with. I do think that level of security shows that it doesn't take a big lapse in the parent's judgement for something bad to happen.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:32 pm to RaginCajunz
I know this was a serious situation and all, but did anyone else laugh at the video of the kid getting rag dolled around? It looked so unreal it cracked me up a bit
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:45 pm to wildtigercat93
I've often theorized the deep look in a gorilla's eyes is simply them imagining popping my arms out of their sockets. They are unbelievably powerful.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 1:47 pm to SEClint
Wow. That gorilla was an a-hole. I'm glad they killed him.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:03 pm to SabiDojo
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:23 pm to AFtigerFan
quote:
This entire incident boils down to " shite happens." The zoo isn't at fault, the child isn't at fault and the parents arent at fault.
This.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:29 pm to RaginCajunz
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Those 2 security features are a joke. Not for a sane adult, but for a small child who can't comprehend the danger
so the mother must not be a sane adult to immediately not sense that her child could be in danger right?
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:38 pm to SEClint
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Baahahahahahahahahahah
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:58 pm to AFtigerFan
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The Audubon Zoo in New Orleans has inherent dangers like this as well in at least the swamp exhibit. It's amazing that in x amount of years, no one has fallen in and either drowned, been eaten by an alligator, etc. At least that's what people would have you believe.
Exactly, why put any personal responsibility on the parent not watching her child creating an incident that people have been smart enough to avoid for 40 years.
Do you realize how many worthless dumbasses have come through that zoo in 40 years, and never had an incident? Now you guys, because you are also shitty parents, want to blame the zoo's security features for a mother allowing her child to ninja warrior the barriers.
Additionally, the kid is 4, he can't see over the bushes to begin with, and thus has no reason to be up next to the fence without an adult holding him. The fences aren't there as step stools for people to get on, and I am sure are clearly noted as such. Plain, simple, easy.
This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:59 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:
Those 2 security features are a joke. Not for a sane adult, but for a small child who can't comprehend the danger
so the mother must not be a sane adult to immediately not sense that her child could be in danger right?
No, I'm sure she's perfectly sane. She's not the one who got into the enclosure. I'm saying that joke of a fence and shallow bushes allowed for a very rapid tragedy. It doesn't seem that gross parental negligence was necessary for the tragedy.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:01 pm to genro
The Zoo guy said a tranquilizer could take a while to work due to the guerilla being agitated and they were scared he would harm the kid.
They should have thrown the mom in the lion cage
They should have thrown the mom in the lion cage
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:07 pm to TrueTiger
quote:
Just like a fetus, a gorilla is not a person,
so killing one should not be a big deal.
Solid thread extender.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 5:02 pm to Jizzamo311
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that just blows my mind that is the only Barrier between the public and the habitat.
That's like saying the the only barrier between the sidewalk and a busy street is 6 inches of curb... wonder why we don't have a ton of 4 year olds running onto the street and get smacked by oncoming traffic?
Because most parents don't let their kids treat the sidewalk next to a busy street like a playground. Thus, the areas around zoo exhibits should never treated like a play area... parents should stay with their kids and be vigilant.
This is not about a stupid ape, it's about parents being responsible for their child's safety... if a child runs into oncoming traffic, don't blame the 6 inch curb for failing to stop the child... blame the parents.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 5:05 pm to Lokistale
quote:bullshite. Like geauxxtigers state earlier, it really is happenstance. Most toddlers at some point do, dart into the road/parking lot, or reach for a dangerous object, or get to close to a railing etc etc. However, it usually ends in the kid getting a spanking and being told never to do it again. However, in rare circumstances, there happens to be a car coming and a tragic event occurs.
That's like saying the the only barrier between the sidewalk and a busy street is 6 inches of curb... wonder why we don't have a ton of 4 year olds running onto the street and get smacked by oncoming traffic?
Because most parents don't let their kids treat the sidewalk next to a busy street like a playground. Thus, the areas around zoo exhibits should never treated like a play area... parents should stay with their kids and be vigilant.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 5:47 pm to lsupride87
True, in some instances kids do run onto traffic, but like you said most kids are caught by the parents before it happen, because the parents are vigilantly watching their kids.
This 4 year old not only crawled throwing the fence, but through 4 feet of thick bush before falling in the water moat... that's a lot of time if not knowing where you child is.
This 4 year old not only crawled throwing the fence, but through 4 feet of thick bush before falling in the water moat... that's a lot of time if not knowing where you child is.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 5:48 pm to Lokistale
this is on the parents and zoo engineers
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