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Zelensky willing to end war and concede territory in exchange for NATO membership
Posted on 11/29/24 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 11/29/24 at 5:28 pm
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Posted on 11/29/24 at 5:32 pm to RaoulDuke504
Sir Donald,
Get us the frick out of NATO and the UN, please, Sir.
Yours,
Me
Get us the frick out of NATO and the UN, please, Sir.
Yours,
Me
Posted on 11/29/24 at 5:33 pm to RaoulDuke504
No NATO, we have enough bums in Europe letting us subsidize their defense. Defend yourself
Posted on 11/29/24 at 5:34 pm to RaoulDuke504
Oh lawd, the blue and yellow face sticker wearers will be on here accusing you of being a Putinist.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 5:37 pm to RaoulDuke504
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and concede territory
That’s not what this clown is saying.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 5:38 pm to RaoulDuke504
I can understand his wanting to do this for his people, but Putin will end this when he is ready.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 5:40 pm to RaoulDuke504
Is he conceding the land or just willing to wait until becoming member of NATO to ensure WWIII?
Posted on 11/29/24 at 5:41 pm to RaoulDuke504
Putin waged this war due to Ukraine joining NATO. These terms are unacceptable to him. Its a nonstarter
Posted on 11/29/24 at 5:44 pm to RaoulDuke504
frick all that
Posted on 11/29/24 at 5:48 pm to RaoulDuke504
Putin will laugh at this.
Putin is evil scum and only wants to destruction of Ukraine so he can have their coastline and all of the minerals in the country.
Putin is evil scum and only wants to destruction of Ukraine so he can have their coastline and all of the minerals in the country.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 5:55 pm to RaoulDuke504
Here’s a better idea. Get fricked and figure it out. I don’t want to fund for the defense of another nation who doesn’t bring shite to the table.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 5:56 pm to RaoulDuke504
Give it to him and then back out of NATO immediately after
Posted on 11/29/24 at 6:01 pm to notiger1997
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Putin is evil scum and only wants to destruction of Ukraine so he can have their coastline and all of the minerals in the country.
Holy shite. Imagine being this stupid. Of course most of us can't, but damn what an idiot.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 6:02 pm to notiger1997
quote:
Putin is evil scum and only wants to destruction of Ukraine so he can have their coastline and all of the minerals in the country.
Does anyone actually think Russia going all out doesn't roll Ukraine? It's a half-assed, unpopular war, that reasonable people doubt Putin is 100% invested in.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 6:03 pm to RaoulDuke504
He wants the article V safety net
Posted on 11/29/24 at 6:04 pm to RaoulDuke504
See how easy this is to fix?
That pos played the money game on the rest of the world and let 100s of thousands of his people die for nothing.
That pos played the money game on the rest of the world and let 100s of thousands of his people die for nothing.
This post was edited on 11/29/24 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 11/29/24 at 6:04 pm to RaoulDuke504
That's where it was going all along. Trump election just accelerated it
Posted on 11/29/24 at 6:10 pm to RaoulDuke504
EU, yes.
NATO, no.
The outcome everyone on the left seems to think is the only acceptable one is where Russia pulls out immediately, apologizes profusely, and pays reparations to Ukraine. That, or anything close to it is never going to happen.
But maybe: Crimea and the Donbas are more than likely going to have to be given up. In exchange, Ukraine will join the EU. Ukraine will continue to be armed to the teeth, with their troops receiving extensive training. Russia signs a treaty that says they get the land they are in, but if they go any further in the future, the consequences will be (insert extreme economic sanctions and military backlash that involves the EU)
It's probably the best that can come out of that situation. It stops the killing, and Trump can get that bullshite out of the way early so it isn't some albatross around his neck while he tries to fix our actual, domestic problems.
NATO, no.
The outcome everyone on the left seems to think is the only acceptable one is where Russia pulls out immediately, apologizes profusely, and pays reparations to Ukraine. That, or anything close to it is never going to happen.
But maybe: Crimea and the Donbas are more than likely going to have to be given up. In exchange, Ukraine will join the EU. Ukraine will continue to be armed to the teeth, with their troops receiving extensive training. Russia signs a treaty that says they get the land they are in, but if they go any further in the future, the consequences will be (insert extreme economic sanctions and military backlash that involves the EU)
It's probably the best that can come out of that situation. It stops the killing, and Trump can get that bullshite out of the way early so it isn't some albatross around his neck while he tries to fix our actual, domestic problems.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 6:12 pm to RaoulDuke504
Interesting development. The neocon brain trust in the thread pinned at the bottom of this forum told us for the past week Ukraine giving up land will never be an option. It’s almost as if they have no idea what they’re talking about.
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