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re: Zachary homicide victim was sexual predator
Posted on 7/9/15 at 11:58 am to Topwater Trout
Posted on 7/9/15 at 11:58 am to Topwater Trout
Court documents suggest 17-year-old girl accused in slaying of Zachary man Saturday was sexually abused by him as a child
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Authorities remain tight-lipped about the motive in the weekend killing of a Zachary man, but court documents suggest the 17-year-old woman arrested Wednesday night in the murder was sexually abused by him as a child — a crime for which he had just started serving probation.
Brittany Monk and her boyfriend, Jace Crehan, 21, are accused of strangling and stabbing Robert Noce on Saturday and then stuffing his body in a drum at his Zachary home.
According to a 2013 indictment, Noce, 47, was initially charged with the aggravated rape of a child referred to in the document as “BM” and whose birth date is listed as July 11, 1997. The Sheriff’s Office said Wednesday that Monk’s birthday is July 11, 1997.
The rape charge was later reduced and on June 22, Noce pleaded no contest to carnal knowledge of a juvenile and began serving a five-year term of supervised release, according to court records.
Noce was initially accused of having oral intercourse with a child when she was between 4 and 8 years old, according to a 2012 affidavit of probable cause. The abuse occurred between 2001 and 2009, and the victim notified her mother about the incidents in 2012, the document says.
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 12:01 pm to Topwater Trout
I'm pretty certain that a 2nd Degree Murder guilty verdict in LA automatically gets you Life w/ no parole. Also, it only takes 10 of 12 to convict.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 12:49 pm to Artie Rome
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Doesn't really change anything. It probably won't even come into evidence when this guy is tried.
It would have implications for her case at least.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:14 pm to airportwhiskey
It shouldn't even come into evidence. It happened over three years ago. Plenty of time for "boiling blood" to cool.
ETA: She'll likely be charged with accessory after the fact, and probably won't be tried at all. But the boyfriend is likely fricked.
ETA: She'll likely be charged with accessory after the fact, and probably won't be tried at all. But the boyfriend is likely fricked.
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:24 pm to Artie Rome
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It shouldn't even come into evidence. It happened over three years ago. Plenty of time for "boiling blood" to cool.
It actually happened when she was between 4-8; she finally told her mother just a few years ago. But his guilty plea/sentence was only 2 weeks ago, and his light punishment may have made a difference in her state of mind.
Also, from a few pages ago:
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shite's getting real in the comments of the WBRZ FB story on it. Crehan's sister, Riley, had this to say in response to someone else's comment:
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He raped Brittany for many years. When she turned 16. She went to the cops. He was arrested and charged and let go after only serving 19 days!!!!!! The judge gave him probation. He then harassed my brother and Brittany for weeks and even threatened to kill her while my brother was at work. I guess they felt scared and vulnerable since the law OBVIOUSLY let him free. I'm not saying what he did was right. But I have a daughter.... And I could never imagine anyone raping her walking free
If the suspects have any proof of Noce's threats and harassment, then it seems like that could be used as part of the defense.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:33 pm to Dorothy
If he's made recent threats I can see that as a mitigating factor. But his crime from 10 years ago should not be considered in a trial of the boyfriend. Based on the law, of course. Not emotion.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 4:08 pm to Artie Rome
Oh i think it will. If not, it will get her public support and help to make sure she gets a good lawyer.
Here is some info that seems to confirm she was the victim and some of the details.
"The victim was 3 years old when she was left to live with Noce at a Brownfields’ home in the northern part of East Baton Rouge Parish, according to the document. Her mother had moved out of the house because she and Noce “were arguing a lot,” according to the document.
Noce was initially accused of having oral intercourse with the girl when she was between 4 and 8 years old, according to a 2012 affidavit of probable cause. The abuse occurred between 2001 and 2009, and the victim notified her mother about the incidents in 2012, the document says. The girl lived with Noce until she was 12."
Here is some info that seems to confirm she was the victim and some of the details.
"The victim was 3 years old when she was left to live with Noce at a Brownfields’ home in the northern part of East Baton Rouge Parish, according to the document. Her mother had moved out of the house because she and Noce “were arguing a lot,” according to the document.
Noce was initially accused of having oral intercourse with the girl when she was between 4 and 8 years old, according to a 2012 affidavit of probable cause. The abuse occurred between 2001 and 2009, and the victim notified her mother about the incidents in 2012, the document says. The girl lived with Noce until she was 12."
Posted on 7/9/15 at 6:36 pm to Dorothy
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It shouldn't even come into evidence. It happened over three years ago. Plenty of time for "boiling blood" to cool.
It actually happened when she was between 4-8; she finally told her mother just a few years ago. But his guilty plea/sentence was only 2 weeks ago, and his light punishment may have made a difference in her state of mind.
Also, from a few pages ago:
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shite's getting real in the comments of the WBRZ FB story on it. Crehan's sister, Riley, had this to say in response to someone else's comment:
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He raped Brittany for many years. When she turned 16. She went to the cops. He was arrested and charged and let go after only serving 19 days!!!!!! The judge gave him probation. He then harassed my brother and Brittany for weeks and even threatened to kill her while my brother was at work. I guess they felt scared and vulnerable since the law OBVIOUSLY let him free. I'm not saying what he did was right. But I have a daughter.... And I could never imagine anyone raping her walking free
If the suspects have any proof of Noce's threats and harassment, then it seems like that could be used as part of the defense.
I would also think that the justice system's total failure to mete out justice should be a factor too.
This girl has been failed by so many - thrown to a rapist by her mother and denied justice by the justice system. I think she will be a sympathetic figure to many and may get a lot of public support.
Posted on 7/10/15 at 8:39 am to gingerkittie
New details available on the advocate. This has to be the worst mother out there.
She gets raped by her boyfriend, the victim, so she leaves him and leaves her kids with him. He basically raped the girl every day after that
She gets raped by her boyfriend, the victim, so she leaves him and leaves her kids with him. He basically raped the girl every day after that
Posted on 7/10/15 at 9:09 am to Artie Rome
How does the prosecution try and establish a motivation for the crime? They will have evidence that the accused was at the crime scene, but is opportunity enough for a conviction?
Posted on 7/10/15 at 9:18 am to gingerkittie
The mother is an idiot, the guy was a piece of shite and the justice system completely failed this girl to such a point where she apparently lived in fear of the aforementioned shite-piece.
If I were on the jury I would be pushing for nullification due to the specifics of this case (as they appear right now, at least).
If I were on the jury I would be pushing for nullification due to the specifics of this case (as they appear right now, at least).
Posted on 7/10/15 at 9:23 am to Bard
My piece of shite boss just tried to defend this guy.
My exact words before I could stop myself, "frick him, frick you, and frick people who think like you do."
We're in a fairly...academic setting, so everyone awkwardly laughed.
I followed it with, "seriously".
If it was open season on pedophiles tomorrow, I would use every tactic people are using to kill wild hogs. I do at least feel a twinge of regret when killing them, Wouldn't feel a damned thing for these moustachioed pieces of shite.
My exact words before I could stop myself, "frick him, frick you, and frick people who think like you do."
We're in a fairly...academic setting, so everyone awkwardly laughed.
I followed it with, "seriously".
If it was open season on pedophiles tomorrow, I would use every tactic people are using to kill wild hogs. I do at least feel a twinge of regret when killing them, Wouldn't feel a damned thing for these moustachioed pieces of shite.
Posted on 7/10/15 at 9:26 am to Poodlebrain
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How does the prosecution try and establish a motivation for the crime?
If they have evidence of the threats, those can open the door to the history of molestation he perpetrated on the girl. From there you explain that the resulting penalty Noce endured for the molestation was a complete failure as it allowed him to harass and threaten the young girl.
So we have someone whose mother has failed her, the justice system has failed and she is in complete fear for her life by a man who has already molested her multiple times. What other avenue would such a vulnerable young girl feel she had? Go to the cops again? That worked out well. Her mom? Useless.
The only snag would be if there are people on the jury that believe they must go with the letter of the law over the reality of the case.
Posted on 7/10/15 at 9:28 am to X123F45
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My piece of shite boss just tried to defend this guy.
How the frick does someone defend that prick?
He molested a child. For years. She killed him. Justice has been served.
Posted on 7/10/15 at 9:42 am to HeadyMurphey
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This has to be the worst mother out there.
The 47 lb. 15 year old's mom has a strong argument as well. But yeah, she sucks.
Posted on 7/10/15 at 9:42 am to Bard
This piece of shite asked "why was she at his house if she didn't want to have sex?" he used the exact same defense for bill cosby.
All that tells me, he is likely a rapist POS himself.
After today, I feel like everyone else realises it.
All that tells me, he is likely a rapist POS himself.
After today, I feel like everyone else realises it.
Posted on 7/10/15 at 9:43 am to X123F45
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If it was open season on pedophiles tomorrow, I would use every tactic people are using to kill wild hogs.
You probably wouldn't, but I understand your emotion and outrage.
Posted on 7/10/15 at 9:45 am to gingerkittie
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This girl has been failed by so many - thrown to a rapist by her mother and denied justice by the justice system. I think she will be a sympathetic figure to many and may get a lot of public support.
If there was ever a case for jury nullification, this is it. Again, I can't see them even prosecuting the girl. But I think the boyfriend is up shite Creek.
Posted on 7/10/15 at 9:50 am to X123F45
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This piece of shite asked "why was she at his house if she didn't want to have sex?" he used the exact same defense for bill cosby.
So if he goes to Bill Cosby's house it's only to have sex with him? Any female that goes to your boss' home is only there for sex? (I'm sure his female relatives will be thrilled to know that)
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All that tells me, he is likely a rapist POS himself.
I wouldn't be shocked. Anyone that can defend a rapist is either a complete buffoon or is doing it from a standpoint of self-defense.
Posted on 7/10/15 at 10:12 am to Bard
The lifetime movie has to already be in the works.
I feel so bad for this girl, it breaks my heart that she endured so much and now will endure a criminal trial and will serve more jail time than the monster that stole her life.
I praise her for taking matters in her own hands where our society failed her repeatedly. She needs a hug and a scholarship.
I feel so bad for this girl, it breaks my heart that she endured so much and now will endure a criminal trial and will serve more jail time than the monster that stole her life.
I praise her for taking matters in her own hands where our society failed her repeatedly. She needs a hug and a scholarship.
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