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re: YouTube series focuses on the Louisiana trial lawyer scam

Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:35 am to
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37625 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:35 am to
Excellent post.

I think judges are the main source of the problem, which is a reflection of the citizens. St. Tammany is considered a pretty plaintiff-adverse jurisdiction because of the judges elected. Of course, if you’re a fairly connected PI attorney you can still get a good case through here and there, wink wink nod nod.

Also don’t forget the Dr.’s expert witness fees for deposition and testimony. Another payola.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
13478 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:37 am to
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chiropractor


Every single one of these I've encountered have been pure scumbags. I despise them more than plaintiff attorneys.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22859 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:43 am to
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The losing attorney should have to pay the winning attorneys fees and court cost.


While this may sound like a good idea in theory, it would actually have the opposite affect and would actually encourage more of these suits.

Very rarely is there an actually dispute over causation of the injury. These cases almost always revolve around the extent of the injury and damages. Because causation is generally not at issue, the plaintiff is almost always going to “win,” even if it’s a couple thousand dollars. Now you just put the defendant on the hook for the plaintiffs attorneys fees and court costs in nearly every PI case.
This post was edited on 6/25/20 at 9:47 am
Posted by Dandaman
Louisiana
Member since May 2017
798 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:45 am to
Current laws should be enforced to stop this scam:

1 - Personal injury attorneys should be prosecuted for directing medical treatment

2 - Health care providers should be prosecuted for providing unnecessary medical treatment

3 - the presumption of an injury being caused by an accident is bad law and essentially unconstitutional (the Housley presumption effectively allows for someone to be deprived of property without a fair process).

4 - the testimony from plaintiff doctors that indicates a degenerative condition was aggrivated by an accident, which is based purely on a plaintiff's self-reported pain history should be excluded because it is junk science.
This post was edited on 6/25/20 at 9:45 am
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
13459 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:54 am to
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It’s unethical.


The hell they are, you got a link?

ANd if the guy can't work what's wrong with feeding him and his family?
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22859 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:57 am to
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ANd if the guy can't work what's wrong with feeding him and his family?


If these suits were about feeding families nobody would have an issue with them. You are well aware that most of these suits go FARRRRRRRRR beyond providing for families.
Posted by Dandaman
Louisiana
Member since May 2017
798 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:02 am to
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ANd if the guy can't work what's wrong with feeding him and his family?


HAHAHA. .0000001% of cases.
Posted by Jimmy2shoes
The South
Member since Mar 2014
11004 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:10 am to
This reform stuff is total BS. Nothing will get better with these BS "reforms". The people who are excited about giving up your rights without anything guaranteed in return are a bunch of fools. I remember when Mike Foster made insurance companies reduce rates when they passed the last tort reform. We are paying some really cheap auto insurance aren't we folks?
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46362 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:11 am to
JBE not gonna be happy
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119934 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:13 am to


Agreed. I don’t think you go far enough - prosecute ANYONE, lawyer or client, who files a lawsuit and loses. (This doesn’t apply to businesses of course.). If they want to appeal, they get a three judge panel sponsored by Exxon and Allstate.
This post was edited on 6/25/20 at 10:15 am
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35884 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:16 am to
The problem with PI trial lawyers is that they are about nothing other than a transfer of wealth through judicial means. Typically in a PI suit it is the attorney (s) who win.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84490 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:18 am to


Trial lawyers getting rich while insurance companies and insurance company executives are stuck in the poor house
Posted by TigerGman
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Member since Sep 2006
13459 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:23 am to
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essentially unconstitutional (the Housley presumption effectively allows for someone to be deprived of property without a fair process).


LMAO? WTF? A presumption is unconstitutional? You're gonna have to rewrite a whole bunch of laws fella.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22859 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:24 am to
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The people who are excited about giving up your rights without anything guaranteed in return are a bunch of fools.


What rights are you giving up? Please be specific.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119934 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:24 am to
I’m sick of it. I like where this guy’s head is at. We need to make the civil tort system RACKET done with. How do we do that? We put these people in jail.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
21546 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:27 am to
Two comments: "which chiropractors"? Drive around B.R. or the West Bank in N.O. as 2 small examples. The ones you see on billboards are all plaintiff whores. As well, these types of trial lawyers do not give a shite about any criticism directed their way, they have no morals, let alone a conscious. They certainly do not care about the "little people" . The little people do not get past the call screeners. It's all about the $$$$$ to them.
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2211 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:27 am to
Absolutely every person in the system is making money.

Plaintiffs
Plaintiff attorneys
Defense attorneys
Chiropractors
Pain management doctors
Surgeons
Judges
Insurance executives
Paralegals
Secretaries
Court reporters



The people getting the shaft are those paying premiums.
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10683 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:27 am to
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Single handedly fricked LAs auto insurance rates. We have the 2nd highest rates in the country and they continue to climb 50% faster than the national average.


Question. If the insurance industry was handed a bill that gave them everything they were looking for, why would they not commit on the record to a reduction in insurance premiums?

If there is such an iron clad unassailable correlation between jury threshold amounts, collateral source, liability presumptions, lack of seat belt use as proof of comparative fault, etc., then once these things are addressed by the legislature, shouldn't insurance companies agree on the record to some reduction without question?

They didn't.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84490 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:36 am to
Follow up question is why did they kill bills in committee that would have looked at their underwriting practices?
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
13459 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:41 am to
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f there is such an iron clad unassailable correlation between jury threshold amounts, collateral source, liability presumptions, lack of seat belt use as proof of comparative fault, etc., then once these things are addressed by the legislature, shouldn't insurance companies agree on the record to some reduction without question?



Simple solution to all this--Loser pays attorney fees. PI attorneys will be terrified to take marginal cases to court and Insurance companies will not want to low ball good cases.
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