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re: Your kid fails out of med school, do you then find him a job, or tell him he's on his own
Posted on 12/28/24 at 12:20 pm to Jack Ruby
Posted on 12/28/24 at 12:20 pm to Jack Ruby
Knew a guy that happened to in the early 90s at LSU Med. He was able though to lend a job as a lab tech there however and that translated into a really good gig as a lab manager / chief tech at East Jeff. Made really good money.
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 12:31 pm to makersmark1
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Residency is way harder. If you think med school is tough, residency is brutal.
What makes residency so hard?
If you could go back in time, would you do it again/follow the same path?
Posted on 12/28/24 at 12:37 pm to Seven Costanza
quote:Hours, lack of sleep, and decisions having to be made on lack of sleep
What makes residency so hard?
Posted on 12/28/24 at 12:42 pm to Seven Costanza
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What makes residency so hard?
Long hours.
Complicated cases.
Long hours.
Balancing everything from patient care, to learning, to teaching, and administrative things. Publishing. Dealing with all sorts of people. Being responsible.
Long hours.
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If you could go back in time, would you do it again/follow the same path?
As I look back, I guess it all worked out.
I would probably try to get a job in medical industry with stock options after my first or second career in medicine.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 12:57 pm to makersmark1
Thank you for the answers and good information.
What are the teaching aspects of residency?
Publishing academic papers?
What sort of job would this entail?
Sorry for all the questions, considering a career as a physician.
Were you married or did you have any children during med school and residency?
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to learning, to teaching,
What are the teaching aspects of residency?
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Publishing
Publishing academic papers?
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I would probably try to get a job in medical industry with stock options
What sort of job would this entail?
Sorry for all the questions, considering a career as a physician.
Were you married or did you have any children during med school and residency?
This post was edited on 12/28/24 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 12/28/24 at 1:00 pm to VolunGator
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Redirect him to PT, OT or chiropractor school.
PT school isn’t exactly easy to get into most places. Also as a PT for 18 years I really wouldn’t recommend it if you’re going to have 6 figures in loans unless you have a very specific vision of how you’re going to make more than most of us
Posted on 12/28/24 at 1:05 pm to Lush
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Tell him to move somewhere warm, get a bartending job, and crush puss for a year.
Or somewhere cold… ski instructor in Aspen can lay a lot of spoiled rich women. Marry up.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 1:07 pm to Jack Ruby
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Post-grad aged son fails out of medical school (cannot pass level exams). Smart kid just not ready to be a doctor.
This is highly unusual. Once you get in, it’s usually just a formality that you finish.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 1:10 pm to i am dan
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Maybe anesthesiology
I m sure someone in this 10 page thread has pointed this out, but…
Anesthesiologists are doctors (MD’s).
Posted on 12/28/24 at 1:18 pm to Seven Costanza
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Were you married or did you have any children during med school and residency?
I got married during residency.
She was and is the right one for me.
First kid was after residency.
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What are the teaching aspects of residency?
Teaching med students, other residents in your specialty with lectures or small group discussions on rounds. On a bigger scale, I gave grand rounds to other departments regarding topics of mutual interest.
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Publishing academic papers?
Yes, but doing a poster for a meeting is more conducive to the rotation schedule.
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What sort of job would this entail?
Be a medical director for a medical device company, or pharmaceutical company, a corporate hospital system or insurance company medical director.
Look up some big companies and find some MDs/DOs and see what their roles are.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 1:42 pm to makersmark1
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Medical device sales
Honestly, these companies are way more interested in sales experience than medical knowledge.
Confidence, charisma, and ability to think on your feet is what matters.
Stryker would rather hire an ex-college QB than a failed medical student…. 10 times out of 10.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 1:46 pm to GusMcRae
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Confidence, charisma, and ability to think on your feet is what matters. Stryker would rather hire an ex-college QB than a failed medical student…. 10 times out of 10.
All I know is when I’m at the hospital, these guys(medical device/phama/etc) are on the golf course.
All are tan and super nice guys. Good golfers in general. Multiple memberships.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 2:04 pm to makersmark1
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The hardest part of medical school is getting in.
This is the truth.
It’s all hard.
For me, the standardized exams (USMLE) were the hardest. For the OP’s son, these were hard.
For my wife, residency was the hardest. (I loved my intern year and residency. Long hours but it was great to finally help people face to face and not study books all day)
For one of my kids, year 1/2 study were the most difficult.
There is no standard for difficulty. It depends on your natural strengths.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 2:11 pm to Jack Ruby
I have never ever ever heard of a kid failing out of med school second year who didn’t have a drug or alcohol problem. Seriously brother you might look into this .
Posted on 12/28/24 at 2:31 pm to TutHillTiger
it is definitely odd
the old joke is med school is impossible to get in but they do evetything they can to keep you
law school is easy to get in and they do everything they can to get rid of you
I would think his son transferring to get an MBA or JD with his background would be a good move.
the old joke is med school is impossible to get in but they do evetything they can to keep you
law school is easy to get in and they do everything they can to get rid of you
I would think his son transferring to get an MBA or JD with his background would be a good move.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 2:40 pm to Jack Ruby
You are talking about helping him get a device job? Then you will be helping him make sales. You will be the guy talking to peers to help your so.
If you are ready for that, do it
If you are ready for that, do it
Posted on 12/28/24 at 3:12 pm to Jack Ruby
Wishing the best for your son. It seems he needs some focus and drive. I wouldn't give up on him yet.
I would certainly be looking for him to provide some answers as to his expectations of the future. The military has done wonders for many in his current state. Several friends of mine started in a medical MOS in the military and it provided for professional and personal growth. Does he have any interest in CRNA program?
I would certainly be looking for him to provide some answers as to his expectations of the future. The military has done wonders for many in his current state. Several friends of mine started in a medical MOS in the military and it provided for professional and personal growth. Does he have any interest in CRNA program?
This post was edited on 12/28/24 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 12/28/24 at 3:36 pm to TripleBarrelBluff1
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What part of what I said do you think was incorrect?
You are right from a numbers standpoint, as some CRNA classes only take 25 students and med schools may take 200.
But from an actual qualifications standpoint, med school is harder to get in.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 3:39 pm to thejuiceisloose
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Surprised to see that no one has suggested a move to a tropical medical school
They still have to pass the same exams he was unable to pass.
Posted on 12/28/24 at 3:55 pm to supatigah
That’s what my little frat brother and buddy did that failed out but had a massive drug problem. He had it completely under control for over a decade was a partner with Fulbright Jaworski or one of those silk stocking assholes, he did biomedical research litigation etc. He lived down the street from the bushes in Riverbend in Houston, beautiful loving wife, two great kids, CC membership, etc the good life. Then he did coke one day and it was all gone and I was at at his funeral 5 years latter.
He was legitimately exceptionally brilliant, right at genius level, he worked on the mapping the genome under one of the top guys in medical school, who loved him. He had great personality, every one loved him, hard dedicated worker. But he had bad family history of drug and alcohol addiction. A pick up basketball game in medical school and he did some crack and that was it, then celebrated a big case win with some coke at the club and he was done.
He died in early fentanyl wave before we even knew what it was. It was such a fricking waste. I still miss him.
He was legitimately exceptionally brilliant, right at genius level, he worked on the mapping the genome under one of the top guys in medical school, who loved him. He had great personality, every one loved him, hard dedicated worker. But he had bad family history of drug and alcohol addiction. A pick up basketball game in medical school and he did some crack and that was it, then celebrated a big case win with some coke at the club and he was done.
He died in early fentanyl wave before we even knew what it was. It was such a fricking waste. I still miss him.
This post was edited on 12/28/24 at 3:58 pm
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