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re: Your data suggest a moderate automatic preference for White people over Black people.

Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:17 pm to
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37016 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:17 pm to
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that's a badly programmed test they are tying the response time to your natrual preferences when in reality the response time is tied to memory


Exactly
Posted by LSU$$$
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
1280 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:28 pm to
the test tried to get me assimilated to the idea that Thomas Jefferson is bad and Barack is Good.

my mind does not agree with that assesment
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35406 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 10:33 pm to
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Test is pretty much crap though.
The test itself is sound, and there are other (maybe even more superior) methods to measure the same thing.

The problem is that while there is a relationship with real-world biases, researchers in the field have noted the weak relationship and causationed extrapolating the results; however, that hasn't stopped people who don't understand or don't care about the science from making unsupported inferences.

As almost always the case, the science is far less controversial than people would think it like, so they use it for their own nefarious means.
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
20779 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:08 pm to
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Your data suggest a strong automatic preference for White people over Black people.


The problem for me was it reverses the white and black for round two which threw me off.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:10 pm to
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The test itself is sound


Just because Harvard nerds designed the test f2f doesnt mean it's sound. In fact it's biased because it's designed for certain outcomes.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
17202 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:12 pm to
Don't need any test to tell me that.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
18000 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:20 pm to
i took it and I came out with equal biases.

Perhaps its you and not the tests
Posted by mulletproof
Shambala
Member since Apr 2013
4780 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:21 pm to
My test stopped in the middle and they called the police on me.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134318 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:31 pm to
Those questions were very slanted towards a white person being queried. Not neutral at all.

Garbage in/Garbage out
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134318 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:32 pm to
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that test format is dumb


Shitshow of a test.

I was gonna give it a pass up until the timed response portion, but that was some bullshite
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35406 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:02 am to
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Just because Harvard nerds designed the test f2f doesnt mean it's sound. In fact it's biased because it's designed for certain outcomes.
The test is been out for 20 years, and there have been countless variations. It's a sound test, and it's not designed for a preconceived outcome.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72195 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:04 am to
I didn't click but I think it's safe to say everyone from every race is going to favor their race. That's not racism. That's human nature.
Posted by BRL79
Member since Mar 2014
3136 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:05 am to
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Pretty well known fact that you are more likely to prefer what you know and are familiar with. That will be race, religion, hobbies, etc... That doesn't make you racist

Common sense that isn't very common these days.
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9496 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:14 am to
You're on the OT. What result did you expect.?
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70128 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:16 am to
Had a teacher in my ot program try to push this racist crap

I had to tell her this was just human nature
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:27 am to
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The White vs Black test first associates pictures of White folk with positive attributes and African-American faces with negative attributes. Then the test flip-flops and asks you to quickly do a 180 degree change on what it made you associatively accustomed to doing.



My test didn't go that way, FWIW. I had White faces with bad words and black faces with good words to start.

I ended up with a slight preference for white people over black people. I also refused to answer any of the questions as the end of the test so as to keep the results as pure as possible.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
21073 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:34 am to
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The White vs Black test first associates pictures of White folk with positive attributes and African-American faces with negative attributes. Then the test flip-flops and asks you to quickly do a 180 degree change on what it made you associatively accustomed to doing.

If it were reversed we'd all show a racial prejudice towards White Americans. The test formulators are getting the results THEY desire, not reality.

tl/dr: Flawed test mode is flawed


Just quoting this so people that view the later pages see it.

The test is more of a game. They even suggest you go as fast as you can. His "test" could be about puppies vs kittens and good and bad could be switched out with two random colors. You'd have the same results.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:36 am to
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The test itself is sound, and there are other (maybe even more superior) methods to measure the same thing.



The only part of the test that I question is the association of "black" and "bad" with the same key was simply easier for me to remember because they both start with a "b". I should take the gay/straight test to see if those results hold up with gay and good...
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35406 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 7:44 am to
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The test is more of a game. They even suggest you go as fast as you can. His "test" could be about puppies vs kittens and good and bad could be switched out with two random colors. You'd have the same results.
The test just measures the automaticity of associations so if you prefer puppies or kittens, your results should reflect that.

For the IAT test from the OP, 70% of individuals prefer white, while blacks prefer white about 50% of the time. It doesn't mean one is racist; it just means that our brain is able to process associations that we find to be more aligned.
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 7:50 am
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
18000 posts
Posted on 3/28/17 at 8:15 am to
It's a solid test. I studied it extensively in undergrad and it has been modified and improved immensely over time.

The people that flunk it just don't like being told they are racist.

Get over yourself and ask yourself if you do actually feel these prejudices. Ask yourself why and is there is any legitimacy to it.

If you're rationable and logical, you'll realize that of course it's not legit, and in fact more of jsut a beta/cuck fear/xenophobia. Then you can more forward to a more alpha and accepting life
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