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re: Yikes...MPD manual allows and teaches maneuver used by Killer Cop
Posted on 5/30/20 at 12:33 pm to Covingtontiger77
Posted on 5/30/20 at 12:33 pm to Covingtontiger77
You mean to tell me the police have a manual that allows police to get off on "proper training" technicalities?
No way.
Next you will tell me that the police investigated the police and found they did nothing wrong!
No way.
Next you will tell me that the police investigated the police and found they did nothing wrong!
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Posted on 5/30/20 at 12:35 pm to Covingtontiger77
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According to the report, it was "the combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death." Floyd
bullshite. Stop trying to make excuses for the guy. It was murder.
Posted on 5/30/20 at 12:38 pm to Covingtontiger77
So, maybe that report someone posted in another thread aired by CNN showing no bruising to the neck was accurate? He didn't suffocate, but died of a cardiac incident?
This may not be the cut and dried murder case the lynch mob on here was hoping for. If it was in policy, that semi-truck sized hole in the state's case may have just gotten bigger.
This may not be the cut and dried murder case the lynch mob on here was hoping for. If it was in policy, that semi-truck sized hole in the state's case may have just gotten bigger.
Posted on 5/30/20 at 12:38 pm to High C
That was the coroner's report.
Posted on 5/30/20 at 12:39 pm to Covingtontiger77
Yeah, but I don't think it's policy to continue to apply force to the back of someone's neck after they pass out.
Or to continue to apply pressure to the back of someone's neck after checking for a pulse and not finding one.
Or to continue to apply pressure to the back of someone's neck after checking for a pulse and not finding one.
Posted on 5/30/20 at 12:40 pm to Covingtontiger77
Posted on 5/30/20 at 12:40 pm to High C
Sorry facts trigger you.
Posted on 5/30/20 at 12:40 pm to wadewilson
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That was the coroner's report.
People that work closely together
Police, prosecutors, judges, coroners
Strange how video evidence still is not all that conclusive when a police officer does it but an unreliable witness with no other evidence is a slam dunk case against you for the commoners
Posted on 5/30/20 at 12:42 pm to LSUnation78
That same report also said using that technique on someone who is in a prone position is very dangerous.
Posted on 5/30/20 at 12:42 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
Yes. This is correct. I dont think anyone is saying this guy is innocent.
But watching all the people melt about a few simple fscts that have come out is just pathetic.
Even if all of this is true, no one is making excuses. The policy needs to be changed, the cop was at the very least negligent. Everyones on the same page here.
But watching all the people melt about a few simple fscts that have come out is just pathetic.
Even if all of this is true, no one is making excuses. The policy needs to be changed, the cop was at the very least negligent. Everyones on the same page here.
Posted on 5/30/20 at 12:43 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
See my post right below yours. I have friends who are cops, i’ve discussed it.
Other departments do not teach that technique for that very reason. I agree, and if its in policy it needs to change. And i still would say the officer was negligent (AT THE VERY LEAST).
Other departments do not teach that technique for that very reason. I agree, and if its in policy it needs to change. And i still would say the officer was negligent (AT THE VERY LEAST).
Posted on 5/30/20 at 12:44 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Oh it's definitely in policy. But this isn't a matter of policy. It's a matter of fact inasmuch as did the officer's actions fall justifiably within said policy. By way of example, deadly force is allowed by policy as well....but we know that the use of that deadly force can be questioned in terms of did the specific circumstances (and officer's actions);surrounding the use of deadly force fall within or without the strict parameters of their policy on use of deadly force.
Posted on 5/30/20 at 12:45 pm to YF12
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People that work closely together
Police, prosecutors, judges, coroners
Dr. Michael Baden will do the examination after the family takes Floyd's body back from the state. He will likely write up what the County won't, naturally. May be a long time before his autopsy is released, though, unless it's so different from the County's report they choose to release it purposely. Just a guess though.
Posted on 5/30/20 at 12:46 pm to Covingtontiger77
Yeah, I don’t see how he was strangled by the POS cop’s knee on the side of his neck, but the cop surely contributed to his death. Not sure what the charge is for that.
Also can’t believe there aren’t more videos of what happened
Also can’t believe there aren’t more videos of what happened
Posted on 5/30/20 at 12:47 pm to LSUnation78
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Everyones on the same page here.
Posted on 5/30/20 at 12:47 pm to Covingtontiger77
The policy states the neck restraint “may be used against a subject who is actively resisting.
That is the most important part in this case. The guy wasn't resisting at all at that point and was face down & cuffed. Then he went unconscious and the dude still didn't stop until the paramedic got there and had to tap him to basically stop so they could try to get him on the stretcher.
That is the most important part in this case. The guy wasn't resisting at all at that point and was face down & cuffed. Then he went unconscious and the dude still didn't stop until the paramedic got there and had to tap him to basically stop so they could try to get him on the stretcher.
Posted on 5/30/20 at 12:48 pm to LSUnation78
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And as others have said, officers at other departments are not taught this. I dont know if this is actually in their manual or not. But if it is... this is going to get uglier.
Federal Marshals are 1000% not taught this, I can attest to that firsthand. As I've said in other threads, we're taught to put a knee in between the shoulder blades or small of the back; and at least in my case, the training officers made a point to specifically stay away from the neck and to avoid using more pressure than necessary.
Besides, this entire procedure is intended to restrain an unruly perp in order to get the cuffs on. The cuffs were already on, and for quite a while, in this instance.
Posted on 5/30/20 at 12:49 pm to YF12
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Police, prosecutors, judges, coroners
Laughable. If you think police and coroner's offices work closely together you've been watching too much TV. Hell, I've gotten more cooperation from the Public Defender's office over the years than I have from the State's Attorney.
Posted on 5/30/20 at 12:52 pm to YF12
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People that work closely together
Police, prosecutors, judges, coroners
Strange how video evidence still is not all that conclusive when a police officer does it but an unreliable witness with no other evidence is a slam dunk case against you for the commoners
Yeah, coroner's aren't twisting a report to please a cop. Stop watching CSI.
Posted on 5/30/20 at 1:05 pm to Covingtontiger77
Man if he has a good lawyer and the right jury he might walk.
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