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re: Years after the adoption of Common Core, ACT scores are lowest in over a decade

Posted on 10/23/18 at 1:10 pm to
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 1:10 pm to
Some children learn differently than others, and I think that's where the structure needs to change.

I have a horrible memory, so rote memorization does nothing for me. My reading comprehension is almost zero, so I can't read books and know what's going on. Giving me the fundamentals, and then relating them to practical applications that I can visualize or actually experience is the way I learn. I even learn and think better when I'm standing up. Keeping kids still, quiet, and writing letters and numbers on the board is the way it's done now. That doesn't work for everyone
Posted by dixiechick
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 1:18 pm to
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Posted by RobbBobb
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 1:25 pm to
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Books are now on IPads, everything is electronic, kids are addicted to technology, etc, etc. I'm not backing common core, at all, but theres a lot of factors at play.

Nope

We've had increasing technological advances since I was a kid. We've only had CC for a handful of years. This is the first group of kids that went through High school completely under CC instruction

And you see the result
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 1:27 pm to
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Nope

We've had increasing technological advances since I was a kid. We've only had CC for a handful of years. This is the first group of kids that went through High school completely under CC instruction

And you see the result


Yeah man, 100% common core, no other societal or cultural factors played any part in it. None, nada, zip.


I don't like common core either, but you being ignorant doesn't strengthen your arguement
Posted by lsu13lsu
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 1:28 pm to
More idiots are having kids than smart people. This trend will continue no matter if it is common core or we go back to the previous version.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 1:29 pm to
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great advice. i work for a Fortune Top 5

I’ll have 2 McDoubles and a large coke please
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 1:32 pm to
didn't think you saw that post the other day.


quote:

I’ll have 2 McDoubles and a large coke please


please have Mingo's secretary inform his chef of your order, location, and preferred delivery time.
This post was edited on 10/23/18 at 1:34 pm
Posted by zatetic
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 1:32 pm to
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Posted by Areddishfish
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 1:33 pm to
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Extending the school year would give greater flexibility to spend time on the more difficult topics.


I'd argue that the school day is too long. How is that in college, I'm in class for at most 25 hours but elementary, middle, and high school kids are in class for 40 hours a week?
Posted by RobbBobb
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 1:39 pm to
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no other societal or cultural factors played any part in it

Its the lowest in over a decade. Not much has changed in a decade societally (unless youre blaming gay marriage?). Math scores were down going back to 20 years ago. We went thru 9/11 since then, and scores didnt drop that bad
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 1:40 pm to
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Not much has changed in a decade societally (unless youre blaming gay marriage?).


Has your head been so far up your arse that you haven't seen it or are you just stupid?
Posted by CP3LSU25
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 1:41 pm to
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Their jobs are hard. They don't get paid shite.

This post was edited on 11/19/18 at 2:18 pm
Posted by Nguyener
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 1:42 pm to
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they force a student to work a problem a certain way. If a student understands how to do the math, they should not have to learn a new way to figure the problem out just because that's what the teacher says they should do.


Welcome to the over arching problem with the department of education.
Posted by RobbBobb
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 1:46 pm to
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Has your head been so far up your arse that you haven't seen it or are you just stupid?

Please list for me the changes in society since CC was introduced to public schools in 2011, that weren't present before then?
Posted by Klark Kent
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 1:47 pm to
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Please list for me the changes in society since CC was introduced to public schools in 2011, that weren't present before then?



Mingo bout to get deep up in here with his feelings.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 1:50 pm to
Teachers have complained about this from day one. Always surprising to me that people in the profession are never consulted on these types of changes.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 1:53 pm to
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Please list for me the changes in society since CC was introduced to public schools in 2011, that weren't present before then?


Snap chat, Twitter, IPads, and 7 year olds having them all. Thats the biggest one in my opinion, is the reliance in technology. In 2011, I can tell you with certainty that schools weren't teaching the way they are now in regards to technology and the kids were using it like they are now.

Look, I know things haven't changed much at the plant in that time, you all still work a shite ton of overtime to go to Destin and lie about your paychecks, but theres more to the world than Geismer, Bud Light, Wolverines, and Copenhagen
This post was edited on 10/23/18 at 1:55 pm
Posted by RobbBobb
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 1:54 pm to
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Mingo bout to get deep up in here with his feelings.

Hes gonna have a tough day getting his list together, since the ACT reached a college readiness high in 2012. With all those societal thingys going on then.

And here we are just 6 years later, headed south. Because society has fallen apart so quickly, and all. Not because CC was brought on in 2011, or nothing
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 1:55 pm to
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And here we are just 6 years later, headed south. Because society has fallen apart so quickly, and all. Not because CC was brought on in 2011, or nothing


I said it was a significant part, but not the only reason. I know reading is hard for you, but slow down a little and you'll eventually get it.
Posted by High C
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Posted on 10/23/18 at 2:00 pm to
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I said it was a significant part, but not the only reason. I know reading is hard for you, but slow down a little and you'll eventually get it.


Your need to insult someone, anyone, in your posting says a lot about your insecurities.
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