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re: WSJ Article: America’s Biggest Oil Field Is Turning Into a Pressure Cooker

Posted on 12/29/25 at 7:03 pm to
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27660 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 7:03 pm to
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There is a separate issue where the saltwater produced by different wells/reservoirs can be incompatible, leading to scale formation.


Is this why the water guys I work with are obsessed with bugs and nanobubbles?
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12685 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 7:46 pm to
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Is this why the water guys I work with are obsessed with bugs and nanobubbles?

I’m not familiar with nanobubbles in an O&G context so can’t comment on that.

Bugs.. maybe tangentially related? Bacteria are typically a corrosion concern first and foremost. However, sulfate-reducing bacteria (SRB) reduce sulfate (found in produced water to various extents) to sulfide (e.g. H2S). This can be a big deal when you’re dealing with any sort of water injection, because of the risk of reservoir souring. Once the bacteria are downhole with a food source, it’s gonna be way harder to kill them. The fear is that they will then multiply and create a bunch of H2S in the reservoir.

I’ve been out of O&G for a while now so I’m not sure how the thinking has evolved, but it used to be a big concern with waterflood offshore because seawater used for the waterflood has a fair amount of sulfates. I’d imagine the same would apply to disposal wells for brines with meaningful sulfate levels.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
19290 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 7:48 pm to
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As this basin matures, wells keep getting wetter.

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Now, some of the reservoirs that collect the fluids are overflowing

I was told it was just pee.
Posted by CalicoLSU1980
Member since Nov 2025
212 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 8:02 pm to
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Maybe the investors of these data centers would be willing to chip in on the costs to clean up that water if it means they then can use it for "free"?


Dude, there have been hundreds of startups trying to solve this problem economically since 2020 of reusing flowback. The usage was for frac jobs, clean up produced flowback water, then use it on the next well. Data Centers wasn’t really thought of when I heard but would probably be now. None of these startups really turned into anything. All trying to get rich, and just didn’t.

I’m guessing the process is just too expensive than just get shallow aquifer water for frac jobs.

I know some Ivy League guys that tried to do this, but didn’t have oil and gas experience. They literally texted me asking how much frac water and proppant is used per well in Permian. I wanted to be like “If you’re asking that to me, then you shouldn’t likely pour your life savings or money into it.” Texted him 350k bbl for 1 mile lateral, 700k for 2 mile, 1.1 million bbl for 3 mile lateral. I don’t think that company ever got established.
This post was edited on 12/29/25 at 8:07 pm
Posted by CalicoLSU1980
Member since Nov 2025
212 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 8:14 pm to
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No indeed not. That water is more expensive to render usable than seawater would be.


That lines up with several startups I know that tried this, but were out of business in 2-3 years. For flowback reuse water.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22804 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 8:19 pm to
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I'm no geologist or reservoir engineer.

I'm one of those and I don't think frac trucks will make the Permian go overpressured. And if it is overpressure, you can't dispose of water in it unless you have big pumps.

However, I can see with a piss poor surface casing job on old wells, you could get some flow "up the back side".
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22804 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 8:21 pm to
Cretaceous. The Permian Basin was under thousands of feet of sediment by this time.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62779 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 8:21 pm to
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We've already had a wellsite blow up and a deadly H2S release recently. Just as soon have the geyser shooting produced water in the air. Something else M-Tex can get sued for.


This will be what takes out Boss.
Posted by CalicoLSU1980
Member since Nov 2025
212 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 8:35 pm to
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The amount of power required to run a data center and a massive desalination plant would be astronomical


500 MW data center uses 40 MMcfd
1 GW 80 mmcfd
5 GW 0.4 bcfd
We tried building a data center campus.

Desalination part will be negligible compared to what the nat gas turbine uses.
This post was edited on 12/29/25 at 8:35 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13660 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 8:59 pm to
Look at the OT for once. People that actually know WTH they're talking about. Nice break from normal.
Posted by SECCaptain
Member since Jun 2025
1430 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 10:35 pm to
Posted by BabysArmHoldingApple
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2016
1208 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 10:55 pm to
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I was told it was just pee.


You must be a PornHub power user to draw that connection…
Posted by IamNotaRobot
OKC
Member since Nov 2021
1615 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:08 pm to
Good luck getting out the salt. Permian produces millions of barrels of brine per day. You could make a Mount Everest of salt and during the next glacial ice age the roads would never freeze. Can clean it up real nice though.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17147 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:59 pm to
Deionized water
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17147 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:00 am to
Their cost savings method is going to make the cost go up for the rest of us. Right?
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29538 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 1:32 am to
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Deionized water


Or perhaps a chemical solution specifically designed to stop mineral buildup and offer corrosion protection.

We could call this solution... Coolant. We could offer it in many colors and ph levels.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17147 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 1:44 am to
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We could call this solution... Coolant. We could offer it in many colors and ph levels.


If only they’d invent something like this.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104432 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 1:51 am to
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Possible but the exchangers, pumps, pipes & valves would have to be all made of very very expensive metallurgy and also if you ever had a tube leak or failure in the exchanger you would introduce very dirty water into your oil loop.

Likely not conducive for cost and risk of equipment in event of failure.

And ask the offshore folks how the salt water does to their exchangers. Swiss cheese even to the high metals after time.


As long as they have free or nearly free fresh water to cool their servers, they won't search for other solutions. Stop them from externalizing their costs and they'll get busy finding alternatives, or ditch the projects as economically impractical.

Socializing cost and privatizing profit is a way of life for American corporations and it's way past time to put a halt to it.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104432 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 1:52 am to
Double post
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 1:53 am
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