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In négociations information is power. You could alway say you really like the job but had higher salary expectations. Ask if they could meet your expectations and if not allow you more time to complete the job search process. That puts the ball in their court and you can see where they are at with flexibility without giving an ultimatum.

I've done some independent contract work and have both negotiated higher rates for myself and priced myself out of some jobs. It really boils down to who has the better options. Information is leverage.

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severance of about 1.7 years worth of pay.




SWEET JESUS

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I once worked for a startup during the height of the dotcom bubble in the early 2000s.. about three months after I started, they declared bankruptcy and our only ‘severance’ was the near-brand new Dell laptops (back then expensive and a big deal) that we had been issued thru the company… it actually worked out pretty well since it was my first laptop and was a nice device to search for new jobs on.. then about 2 months later it crapped out on me, had some major issue that i couldnt afford to fix and it took me another 3 or 4 yrs before i could afford another computer… True story .

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Would you take this job?

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I was laid off from my engineering job

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Would you take this job?

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The answer is yes

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They are DESPERATE for people. They'll give you what you want. Perfect place to chill until find something better.

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Depends on the discipline

You were making $150k a year and are looking for financial and career advise from a tigerdropping forum? I almost …well I won’t go there.

I would think you could get your previous salary in this job market, especially in Houston. If you have any experience with anything outside of piping you could probably do facilities engineering or topsides engineering for any of the EPCs in Houston.

Yes, but piping engineers do different things among the different epc firms
Line list, specs, sp items etc
Where I’m working now mechanical and process does those things

OP:

If there were Truth in Advertising here, the author of this would be correctly known as “iknownothing”

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- Why would she want you to tell them no? Its a trap. She is telling you to say no now, but two months from now if you don't have another job she will be bitching about that.

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Chris, please don’t attempt to talk at the big people’s table.

OP: Counter-offer the job from Air Products and then take it no matter what they respond.

They are a recession-proof company (by and large).

You can always change jobs later if a golden opportunity avails itself to you.

Don't settle. If they won't give you what you want (which should really be MORE than your last job), then frick 'em. I know you're worried about providing for your family but $190k severance is truly a gift from your previous employer, surely intended to allow you to land on your feet. Take the time they've afforded you to find the absolute best gig you can.

Also, don't fall for the "deadline" bullshite they're feeding you. You've got fourteen years of experience...you're their dream candidate. They either negotiate on your terms or they lose you...simple enough.

Damn dude some people are living paycheck to paycheck and you got 1.7 yrs of severance pay and are complaining about 30K less than what you use to make?

Dude take the job and just continue looking