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re: Would you support a 'Don't Send Your Kids To LSU' campaign?

Posted on 5/20/23 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 12:02 pm to
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I guess people shouldn't send their kids to UT anymore
Posted by Midtiger farm
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 12:31 pm to
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a handful of SEC markets have under 100k population now. Lexington and Knoxville are pretty similar sized markets as well.


Ok
Lexington has good crime stats
Knoxville’s are similar to Columbia’s and marginally better than Br
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 4:36 pm to
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Austin has better demographics but is going downhill - downtown is blocks from campus with a ton of homeless people and lots of crime. I've listened to 2 true crime podcast about UT students being murdered . I guess people shouldn't send their kids to UT anymore


Interestingly enough, I remember in the early 2000’s Kip Holden lead a delegation of folks to Austin to tour it and take notes. It was considered one of our “sister cities” (his words, not mine) at the time by some.

Coincidentally Austin is sharing a similar fate today. It was obviously already a pretty blue city but the constant importing of Californians has begun to flip it into a similar, quickly advancing shithole.

Either way, I’d bet that their first future thugged out campus murder will end up happening after LSU’s. (And yeah, this is not counting the clock tower shooting in the 60’s). The difference is that they still have a somewhat competent city police department and a frick ton more alumni money than we can claim.

How many Maddy Brooks and Allie Rice’s can we stomach? With this shooting that literally happened 100 yards off campus, and yeah I know it wasn’t a student, but still - with violent crime slowly encroaching every corner of campus (and off campus) at an alarming rate, how much longer can we just sit back and pretend nothings wrong?
Posted by OchoDedos
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 4:50 pm to
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Nimrod

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Posted by LRB1967
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:31 pm to
Send the kids to LSU with a gun and marksmanship training.
Posted by Monkeyboy
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 6:18 pm to
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Nationally but not in BR. The most violent 3 years in BRs history were 2022, 2021, 2020. 2017 is up there as well.


Nah, the mid 80 through mid 90s had the highest violent crime rate ever in Baton Rouge and it wasn't even close. Here are two charts to prove it, both based on FBI data:




As I said in my original post, Baton Rouge had way more violent crime in the 80s and 90s vs. today and was a much more dangerous city. People seem to want to deny that but it's a fact. Just look at the data above.
This post was edited on 5/20/23 at 6:35 pm
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 6:26 pm to
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People seem to want to deny that but it's a fact. Just look at the data above.




Eta: at the time I commented, there was no graph in the post.
This post was edited on 5/21/23 at 9:20 am
Posted by Geauxld Finger
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 6:45 pm to
LSU has been and will continue to buy up properties north of campus
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 6:45 pm to
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As I said in my original post, Baton Rouge had way more violent crime in the 80s and 90s vs. today and was a much more dangerous city. People seem to want to deny that but it's a fact. Just look at the data above

Weird that violent crime would be way higher but murder way lower. It's not really hard to lookup the 3 highest murder totals in BR history and they were 2020-2022.

The coroner measures parish vs city but the vast majority occur in BR

quote:

BATON ROUGE, La. (BRPROUD) – Data reveals that homicides in Baton Rouge are declining. But the East Baton Rouge Parish District Attorney says there is still more work to do.

Rhonda Wilson, the mother of a homicide victim named Percy Wilson, said, “I have been calling detectives every week.”

In 2022, there were 115 homicides in Baton Rouge compared to the record-breaking 150 in 2021


This post was edited on 5/20/23 at 6:52 pm
Posted by GetMeOutOfHere
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 7:01 pm to
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Columbia and Nashville


Have you ever actually been to either of these cities, or any other SEC town besides BR?
Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 8:04 pm to
No
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 8:04 pm to
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aton Rouge had way more violent crime in the 80s and 90s vs. today


Certainly doesn't feel like it. I was in HS in the 80s and college in the 90s and I don't remember it being this bad
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 8:17 pm to
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Baton Rouge had way more violent crime in the 80s and 90s vs. today
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Certainly doesn't feel like it. I was in HS in the 80s and college in the 90s and I don't remember it being this bad


This all day and Sunday. Not only do I have a hard time following you on merit, but unless you lived here during it, I think you’re just blatantly full of fricking shite.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 8:20 pm to
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This all day and Sunday. Not only do I have a hard time following you on merit, but unless you lived here during it, I think you’re just blatantly full of fricking shite

I was at Lsu starting in the mid 90s. The country and particularly New Orleans had big crime issues at the time.

BR wasn't Mayberry either but murder was a good bit lower than recently. And it's not only that violent crime is happening, it's where it's happening too, which is all over South BR. I lived in Tigerland and off of State Street in the 90s
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 8:59 pm to
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Have you ever actually been to either of these cities, or any other SEC town besides BR?


Pretty much every single one Have you? Have you gone to the ghetto of these towns, the industrial, dirty parts, you’ve been to the former good parts of these cities that have now turned to shite ?
This post was edited on 5/20/23 at 9:06 pm
Posted by Midtiger farm
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 9:05 pm to
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How many Maddy Brooks and Allie Rice’s can we stomach? With this shooting that literally happened 100 yards off campus, and yeah I know it wasn’t a student, but still - with violent crime slowly encroaching every corner of campus (and off campus) at an alarming rate, how much longer can we just sit back and pretend nothings wrong?


Do you follow the police blotter of all these cities and see what kind of crime happens around each campus?

LINK

LINK

LINK /

These are just from basic searches of crimes happening on and around UT campus to UT students
Posted by Giantkiller
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 9:18 pm to
It’s interesting you quote my last paragraph, then quote some UT crime statistic while completely ignoring my whole Austin rap. As I said::

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Interestingly enough, I remember in the early 2000’s Kip Holden lead a delegation of folks to Austin to tour it and take notes. It was considered one of our “sister cities” (his words, not mine) at the time by some.

Coincidentally Austin is sharing a similar fate today. It was obviously already a pretty blue city but the constant importing of Californians has begun to flip it into a similar, quickly advancing shithole.

Either way, I’d bet that their first future thugged out campus murder will end up happening after LSU’s. (And yeah, this is not counting the clock tower shooting in the 60’s). The difference is that they still have a somewhat competent city police department and a frick ton more alumni money than we can claim.



If you’re betting Baton Rouge loses a race to the bottom versus Austin, I can’t wait to see it. I guess there’s only one way to find out.
Posted by DCTiger
Washington DC
Member since Jan 2005
330 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 10:28 pm to
No, but none of my kids are going to LSU. I loved LSU when I went for undergrad in the mid 90s and grad school in the early 2000s. Bottom line — Baton Rouge has become a sh!thole. End of story.

So many other “college towns” are better than Baton Rouge. Sh!tty politicians and cookie-cutter homes have only made it worse.

Glad I left Baton Rouge when I did and never looked back.
Posted by UtDawg
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2023
323 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 11:48 pm to
Eventually you need to deal with what’s right in front of your face
Posted by AlwysATgr
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Posted on 5/21/23 at 3:02 am to
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Would you support a 'Don't Send Your Kids To LSU' campaign?


I don't dismiss your idea as out of hand. And if I thought it would help LSU in the long run I'd be in favor of it.

Far too many are unwilling to come to terms with the fact that the campus sits in the midst of a culcha farm that is in no way beneficial to LSU or anyone else who prefers to live in honor.

BR as I knew it as a kid/teen in the 60s, 70s, and 80s was considered a nice city and by no means an unsafe city. I don't think that's the perception anymore. Sadly.

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