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Would you drive this? US Army’s new Infantry Squad Vehicle

Posted on 6/28/20 at 1:38 pm
Posted by goofball
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Posted on 6/28/20 at 1:38 pm


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Designed to provide rapid ground mobility, the expeditionary ISV is a light and agile all-terrain troop carrier intended to transport a nine-Soldier infantry squad moving throughout the battlefield. The ISV is light enough to be sling loaded from a UH-60 Blackhawk helicopter and compact enough to fit inside a CH-47 Chinook helicopter for air transportability. The total production ISV contract award value is $214.3 million to procure the initial Army Procurement Objective of 649. The approved Army Acquisition Objective is 2,065 vehicles.

GM Defense's solution to the Army's next-generation transportation needs is based off the award-winning 2020 Chevrolet Colorado ZR2 midsize truck architecture and leverages 90 percent commercial off-the-shelf parts. These parts include the Multimatic dual spool-valve dampers and Chevrolet Performance suspension components. The durability and performance of those components have been proven in the grueling Best in the Desert race series, where Colorado is one of only four vehicles to complete 11 consecutive races (out of a total of 434 competitors).


It’s powered by a 2.8 Liter Duramax Diesel engine and has four wheel drive with locking front and rear diffs. It can be lifted and dropped into place via helicopter, and it’s interior is designed to be completely open to the elements. Most mechanical parts are available at Chevy dealerships worldwide. The ISV seats up to 9 soldiers.



2065 will be made in the first order, which means they will cost taxpayers about $100,000 a piece initially.
This post was edited on 6/28/20 at 1:46 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/28/20 at 1:39 pm to
Hell yes I would!
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/28/20 at 1:39 pm to
Only if it has AC for the south LA heat.
Posted by Hogwarts
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 6/28/20 at 1:40 pm to
Nice
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 6/28/20 at 1:41 pm to
Only if I can put a 2 foot lift on it with flowmasters
Posted by Alabama Slim
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 6/28/20 at 1:42 pm to
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which means they will cost taxpayers about $100,000 a piece initially.


Are you kidding me?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134815 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 1:45 pm to
We've spent billions uparmoring Humvees and now we're sending troops out in a stripped down $100,00 Jeep.


I swear to God, we need a good old fashioned brass purge in our military.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9276 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

based off the award-winning 2020 Chevrolet Colorado ZR2 midsize truck architecture and leverages 90 percent commercial off-the-shelf parts
quote:

they will cost taxpayers about $100,000 a piece initially


I really hope at least 25-30% of that figure is R&D.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29185 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 1:50 pm to
Seems excessive...

Of course it’s the military so let’s spend as much as possible ...

Sigh...

Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16820 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 1:50 pm to
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We've spent billions uparmoring Humvees and now we're sending troops out in a stripped down $100,00 Jeep


These are basically troop haulers - they are not designed to be armored vehicles. The Hummers are being replaced by heavier armored trucks that can deflect an IED explosion. That’s not what this is.

The Jeep Gladiator was also considered for this contract but was too heavy to be lifted by a Blackhawk.

Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20386 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 1:50 pm to


Looks like the warthog from halo
Posted by Boston911
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/28/20 at 1:50 pm to
Did we not learn about unarmored Humvees?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134815 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

These are basically troop haulers - they are not designed to be armored vehicles.

Don't we already have like a million deuce and a halfs that can do this job?
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9276 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 1:54 pm to
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We've spent billions uparmoring Humvees and now we're sending troops out in a stripped down $100,00 Jeep.

I think this is more of a special forces vehicle for rapid mobilization. It makes sense to have a light truck available that can be carried by a Blackhawk. 2,000 trucks really isn’t a lot and I don’t think it remotely fills the role of a Humvee.

ETA: Think about the potential applications for Rangers being inserted and extracted via helicopter, but still having vehicles for ground transportation.
This post was edited on 6/28/20 at 1:57 pm
Posted by YF12
Ottobaan
Member since Nov 2019
4451 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 1:55 pm to
We could just buy used Toyota pickups from Africa for a grand a piece and get the same end result as this thing

What a waste of money
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134815 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

I think this is more of a special forces vehicle for rapid mobilization. It makes sense to have a light truck available that can be carried by a Blackhawk
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9276 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

2065 will be made in the first order, which means they will cost taxpayers about $100,000 a piece initially.

After re-reading this, are you sure about your math here? The quoted piece says $214MM for the initial order of 649 vehicles. That would be over $300k a piece. I hope I’m misunderstanding it.
This post was edited on 6/28/20 at 2:02 pm
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9276 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 2:00 pm to
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I have no rebuttal.
Posted by eScott
Member since Oct 2008
11376 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

Would you drive this


Not on a battle field
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39031 posts
Posted on 6/28/20 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

We could just buy used Toyota pickups from Africa for a grand a piece and get the same end result as this thing

Well, I don’t know about that, but we could buy brand new from Can AMs Or Polaris for $20,000 each that would carry four comfortably. With room for some cargo.
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