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re: Would you buy a new car if you knew the engine would only last about 10 years?

Posted on 8/20/21 at 5:44 am to
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 5:44 am to
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Would you buy a new car if you knew the engine would only last about 10 years?


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Yes, I would trade it in at 8 years


This mindset is one of the major reasons this country is currently fricked.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 7:03 am to
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Suppose you're on the I-10 between BR-Lafayette, the typical tie up and you can be sitting there for hours, if you don't have a full charge what happens?


The range loss is pretty small in this situation. Owners report less than 10 miles of range loss sitting in bumper to bumper traffic for 2+ hours.
Posted by andouille
A table near a waiter.
Member since Dec 2004
10704 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:04 am to
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The range loss is pretty small in this situation. Owners report less than 10 miles of range loss sitting
in bumper to bumper traffic for 2+ hours.


Even with the A/C running? Suppose it's 40F and the heater is on?
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20303 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:06 am to
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Would you buy a new car if you knew the engine would only last about 10 years?


If it was a really cool car, then sure. Why not? Most 10 year old cars are old and shitty after a decade.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19058 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:08 am to
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This car also doesn't do well in hot weather, so the life of your components will be even shorter if you don't park it in the shade and avoid hot climates.


What I never see posted in these e-car cost to own comparisons is the total battery replacement which I have seen in as little as 6 yrs and long as 10 yrs. I am also sure there is such a thing as a complete failure of the battery system due to random failure.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:27 am to
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Yes, look up model s plaid 0 to 60 in 2 seconds with 1000 hp


Which is absolutely irrelevant for the 99.999% of people for which a car is just a means of transportation.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
65881 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:28 am to
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Ramblin Wreck


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engine would only last about 10 years


checks out
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110820 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:51 am to
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Would you buy a new car if you knew the engine would only last about 10 years?

yes because I never keep a car for 5 years.

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Also the gas mileage will drop on an average of about 3% every year. It only has a 10 gallon tank, so you can't drive it very far without filling it up again. You also need to know that the gas mileage drop will be even worse if you don't wait until it gets about empty to fill the tank back up. The gas tank has a special connection, so you have to use a specialized pump that takes all night to fill your car back up. There is a rapid gas pump available, but using it will shorten your engine life prior to the expected 10 year period. This car also doesn't do well in hot weather, so the life of your components will be even shorter if you don't park it in the shade and avoid hot climates.

I'll make you a deal, you fix all the woeful inaccuracies in your comparisons here, and I'll answer every single one.

You clearly didn't think this post through and/or have very little knowledge of EVs.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110820 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 10:16 am to
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Self driving technology is just not ready for prime time, if you have to sit there the whole time waiting to take control, you might as well drive.
Mostly agree but using just auto-pilot in bumper to bumper traffic is pretty darn amazing. It's one of those things you never realized but it's a complete game changer.
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Suppose you're on the I-10 between BR-Lafayette, the typical tie up and you can be sitting there for hours, if you don't have a full charge what happens? A hurricane is coming, you want to evacuate your $80K beauty to high ground, but the roads are a parking lot, are you going to haul around a diesel generator?
Your battery loses very, very little charge when sitting in traffic and not moving.

Also, if you're in the typical 5pm traffic you mentioned, chances are you're not on a road trip, so there would really be little reason for you to have very little charge left, so that would rarely happen. Speaking of rarely happen, when is the last time you spent 3 hours in traffic in 1 spot and how often does that happen?

Posted by kjp811
Denver, CO
Member since Apr 2017
850 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 10:18 am to
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Also the gas mileage will drop on an average of about 3% every year. It only has a 10 gallon tank, so you can't drive it very far without filling it up again.


What's the mileage you'll start with baw?
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 10:19 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110820 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 10:18 am to
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Even with the A/C running? Suppose it's 40F and the heater is on?

I once decided to test mine out. Live in North Texas, temperature was around 100 and in the car was well above 160 degrees.

I left my A/C on 72 and also left Sentry Mode on(alarm) during a day of work. So obviously the A/C was essentially on full blast for 8 straight hours given how hot it was inside the car

Over the course of 8 hours, I lost 18 miles of range.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110820 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 10:21 am to
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What I never see posted in these e-car cost to own comparisons is the total battery replacement which I have seen in as little as 6 yrs and long as 10 yrs. I am also sure there is such a thing as a complete failure of the battery system due to random failure.

1. The battery would be under warranty in your scenario

2. You really don't want to do a total cost of ownership of 2 similarly priced cars, 1 being and EV and 1 being an ICE. That will never end well for the ICE car. Gas, regular maintenance and certainly lower on average random maintenance needed, and the EV comes out thousands cheaper rather easily.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17476 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 11:08 am to
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Relax boomer no one is taking away your truck



Boomer is used by mainly white soy boys who are waiting for their boomer parents to die so they can move out of the basement and claim the whole house.
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
1987 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 11:22 am to
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The problem is that they are going to be government mandated eventually which I do have a problem with.




That's my justification for going for the bleachers with standard lithium in the money forum. We're getting EV's whether we want them or not.
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
3921 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 11:37 am to
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Yes, I would trade it in at 8 years


It the OP scenario, do you think trade in value would be worth a shite?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110820 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 11:41 am to
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It the OP scenario, do you think trade in value would be worth a shite?

While true technically, the OP's scenario is just an arbitrary amount of time in the 10 years. But he's obviously picking that timeframe based on a EV battery.

His OP also talks about buying a new car. If you're buying a new EV, you'll more than likely never drive enough miles to the point you'll need a new battery. New Teslas are good for 300-500k miles, for example. And that obviously doesn't mean they'll 100% crap out in that range, just means they're more likely to.


As a direct example, 2013 Teslas are still being sold now 8 years later and have retained value well.
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 11:43 am
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 12:02 pm to
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1) tax subsidies


Republicans are against tax credits now?

Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20114 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 5:19 pm to
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Republicans are against tax credits now?


Crony capitalism? Yes, always.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 6:49 pm to
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Republicans are against tax credits now?


Crony capitalism? Yes, always.



Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35305 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:29 pm to
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Crony capitalism? Yes, always.



Yea this is a lie lol.
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