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re: Would you be in favor of Soviet style justice if there is ZERO doubt of guilt?
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:27 pm to EarlyCuyler3
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:27 pm to EarlyCuyler3
I would however pull the lever; drop the trap door; pull the trigger; or drop the cyanide if EarlyCuyler was the inmate. He does deserve to just go away forever. Forever and ever.
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:28 pm to Eli Goldfinger
We have no deterrent lmao
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:31 pm to captdalton
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captdalton
This is what mentally dominating someone looks like.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:15 pm to captdalton
There’s a twitter link on the first page of this forum in which an “inner city” fellow executes a convenience store owner.
The crime is on video and there is ZERO doubt that the person arrested is the perp.
Shoot him.
The crime is on video and there is ZERO doubt that the person arrested is the perp.
Shoot him.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:16 pm to HarveyBanger
those animals that push dope and coke absolutely decimate communities.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:18 pm to Saintsisit
ha right no victims. heroin and Fentanyl is a fricking epidemic that destroys communities, by preying on the weak. Im not talking about guys who sell weed.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 12:03 am to Eli Goldfinger
I’m pretty sure the Soviet Union didn’t have criminals, just mentally ill people.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 12:16 am to Eli Goldfinger
Sure if we could get fair and equal Justice.
But in the real world, the fbi would kick in the door to attack someone of a different political beliefs and he would end up stitching gloves in Siberia for the rest of his life
But in the real world, the fbi would kick in the door to attack someone of a different political beliefs and he would end up stitching gloves in Siberia for the rest of his life
Posted on 9/16/22 at 12:19 am to EarlyCuyler3
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This seems a much better crime deterrent than what we currently have.
Emphasis being "seems."
Data does not support your hypothesis at all.
Well yeah, to have data on something, you would actually have to do it first. In basic science you can't know the true outcome of an experiment before conducting said experiment.
I would imagine the op is referencing the thread about the thug who killed that gas station worker. We don't need an investigation/ trial/ jury to determine the thug is guilty. That sob should be at the front line of any and all trial experimentation. Even if it's testing to see how a particular chemical effects someone in an enclosed space, he's the perfect candidate. If you want to discuss being inhumane, he gave up those rights, don't you agree?
Posted on 9/16/22 at 12:46 am to Steadyhands
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If you want to discuss being inhumane, he gave up those rights, don't you agree?
So your solution is to lower yourself to his level.
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That sob should be at the front line of any and all trial experimentation. Even if it's testing to see how a particular chemical effects someone in an enclosed space, he's the perfect candidate.
I can't remember calling anyone a Nazi here, as that really triggers people, but you are literally arguing in favor of being a Nazi.
This post was edited on 9/16/22 at 12:48 am
Posted on 9/16/22 at 2:50 am to USMCguy121
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We have no deterrent lmao
I hear people say this, but I’m not sure anything can deter people who have no regard for life, including their own. Sometimes you have to just look it is as a way to remove those people from society.
I’m pro capital punishment for some simple reasons. If a criminal is deemed too dangerous to ever be put back in society, why should taxpayers secure, clothes, feed, shelter, and provide medical care for any length of time beyond their conviction? The method of execution should be quick, humane, and cost effective. Guillotine checks all those boxes.
Will we convict and execute an innocent person every once in a while? Yes. I’m sure we’ve done it in the past, and I’m not sure that’s any worse than taking an innocent man and putting him in Angola Prison with the worst of mankind and telling he will live there till he dies.
For crimes in which rejoining society is deemed the goal, the focus should be on rehabilitation and setting that person up to succeed in life when they re-enter world of the free. Not the system we have now where you can’t hide your past, and are doomed to be recycled back into the criminal justice system.
This post was edited on 9/16/22 at 5:08 am
Posted on 9/16/22 at 3:09 am to cssamerican
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Will we convict and execute an innocent person every once in a while? Yes. I’m sure we’ve done it in the past, and I’m not sure that’s any worse than taking an innocent man and putting him in Angola Prison with the worst of mankind and telling he will live there till he dies.
And the flip side is innocent people die at the hands of violent reoffenders (see Memphis recently) so an “innocent” life can be lost in either system
Posted on 9/16/22 at 4:31 am to Eli Goldfinger
I can't believe at this point there is no way to find the truth from someone. There are truth serum drugs, lie detectors, brain mapping, experts in body language. There has to be a diagnostic battery of tests you can put someone through to find the truth..
Posted on 9/16/22 at 4:58 am to Eli Goldfinger
If you wanted to see all talk of this end, suggest putting the death penalty on white-collar crime, ALL insider trading, all stock price manipulation, and politicians taking kickbacks. Conversation would be fini... 
Posted on 9/16/22 at 5:24 am to Hangit
Haha, rules are for poor people. Everybody knows that.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 5:42 am to Eli Goldfinger
No. We are supposed to be better than they are.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 5:48 am to BigBobbyStorey
How about diet coke? Same sentence?
Posted on 9/16/22 at 5:50 am to EarlyCuyler3
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You put the hypothesis out there, not me. Do you have anything to back it up other than feelings?
You call that data?!
Amnesty international Myth/Fact page is now data 
Posted on 9/16/22 at 6:07 am to Eli Goldfinger
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Would you be in favor of Soviet style justice if there is ZERO doubt of guilt?
How about Middle Eastern justice? Cut the hands off of a theif.....publicly hang a murderer or drug dealer. This I support.
Posted on 9/16/22 at 6:11 am to CoachChappy
LINK
Here you go, knock yourself out. We both know you aren't going to read it. When you can't dispute the facts, question the source.
Here you go, knock yourself out. We both know you aren't going to read it. When you can't dispute the facts, question the source.
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We compared homicide rates in two quite similar cities with vastly different
execution risks. Singapore had an execution rate close to 1 per million per year until an
explosive twentyfold increase in 1994-95 and 96 to a level that we show was probably
the highest in the world. Then over the next 11 years, Singapore executions dropped by about 95%. Hong Kong, by contrast, has no executions all during the last generation and
abolished capital punishment in 1993. Homicide levels and trends are remarkably similar
in these two cities over the 35 years after 1973, with neither the surge in Singapore
executions nor the more recent steep drop producing any differential impact. Singapore’s
aggressive capital punishment policies provided a critical test of the exuberant claims
among American empiricists produced by statistical extrapolation over time in a low-
execution environment like the United States. The Singapore experience magnifies the
impact of American assertions to a patently silly status.
This post was edited on 9/16/22 at 6:17 am
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