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re: Would high speed rail ever work in the US?
Posted on 10/14/23 at 1:43 pm to Napoleon
Posted on 10/14/23 at 1:43 pm to Napoleon
No. It works in Europe and Japan because they have walkable cities and/or plentiful metros to get you around once you arrive in a city.
Say you arrive in downtown Houston by high speed rail. Then what? Pay $250 in Uber fees to get around? It may work between NYC and Washington DC or Chicago, but American cities aren’t built in a way to make long distance rail a reasonable option.
Say you arrive in downtown Houston by high speed rail. Then what? Pay $250 in Uber fees to get around? It may work between NYC and Washington DC or Chicago, but American cities aren’t built in a way to make long distance rail a reasonable option.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 1:46 pm to Napoleon
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Would high speed rail ever work in the US?
Definitely not
Posted on 10/14/23 at 1:47 pm to Napoleon
Yes
Should have started in the 1960's tho
100 - 300 miles = Auto / Truck + HSR
300 - 600 miles = HSR (especially if bring back Auto Train)
600+ miles = Air
Should have started in the 1960's tho
100 - 300 miles = Auto / Truck + HSR
300 - 600 miles = HSR (especially if bring back Auto Train)
600+ miles = Air
Posted on 10/14/23 at 2:11 pm to notiger1997
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Ok, I stand corrected, but for some reason I still hear stories of Amtrak trains getting stopped and face delays due to freight trains blocking the tracks. Maybe it's just some bad logistics stuff that just happens sometimes.
In the northeast a lot of the old lines were removed and are now hiking trails. This has resulted in any new rail planning leveraging existing freight lines.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 2:17 pm to Napoleon
I would be in favor of emminent domaining a high-speed corridor down the Atlantic Coast from Boston to Miami.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 2:47 pm to Basura Blanco
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Europeans look in wonder at our interstate system the way we look at their rail system. If you have ever tried to drive anywhere over there you would know why.
American roads are honestly fantastic compared to European roads.
When I see people complain about roads, I think they really need to experience other country roads to really have perspective.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 2:50 pm to Napoleon
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Posted on 10/14/23 at 2:52 pm to Napoleon
if the tracks were elevated AND passenger specific, i think that yes they could work.
you would also have to demonstrate they are safe for all folks. there is a stigma of riding public transit that has to be changed by more than words.
you would also have to demonstrate they are safe for all folks. there is a stigma of riding public transit that has to be changed by more than words.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 3:02 pm to Larry_Hotdogs
I watched a video about California’s attempt and it’s such a cluster between local politics and environmental bureaucrats it’s just a pure money pit.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 3:03 pm to Thundercles
quote:Yep.
I watched a video about California’s attempt and it’s such a cluster between local politics and environmental bureaucrats it’s just a pure money pit.
They are estimated $88-128 billion for that one rail.
That is fricking insane.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 3:13 pm to Napoleon
Not sure if this is another impediment or applicable. However, someone mentioned straightaways are needed for high speed rail efficiency. This could be very hard to build and problematic in the US because we are one of the only countries that has private land ownership and a judicial system that largely enforces / supports the private land ownership rights (which is a constitutional right and should never be compromised IMO). If someone was to propose a rail across my land, I would ask for royalties and/or bonuses that make the economics even tougher.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 5:47 pm to Napoleon
Not really. No sense in wasting billions on a technology that will be obsolete once the system is completed.
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