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re: Worlds richest man donates $10B to... Climate Change
Posted on 2/17/20 at 2:28 pm to Btrtigerfan
Posted on 2/17/20 at 2:28 pm to Btrtigerfan
It is.....the issue is rate of heating.
The earth has NEVER heated this quick.
Problem is, everyone has made this hard political and created teams: MAGA vs. everyone else
The earth has NEVER heated this quick.
Problem is, everyone has made this hard political and created teams: MAGA vs. everyone else
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 2:28 pm to CharlesLSU
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Hmmmm…..what's ironic is that humans absolutely, without any doubt, have the power to render life extinct.
No, we in fact do not.
We have the ability to make ourselves extinct, however life as a whole?
How utterly arrogant.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 2:30 pm to CharlesLSU
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Problem is, everyone has made this hard political and created teams: MAGA vs. everyone else
Oh look, yet another utterly simplistic statement from you.
Because only MAGA people question current climate change hysteria, right?
Posted on 2/17/20 at 2:31 pm to Centinel
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No, we in fact do not.
We have the ability to make ourselves extinct, however life as a whole?
How utterly arrogant.
ok, most land-based mammals....and some cold-blooded land-dwelling varieties as well.
arse
Posted on 2/17/20 at 2:33 pm to Centinel
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Oh look, yet another utterly simplistic statement from you.
ok, lets play this game:
Problem is, MANY have made...…
duck duck duck
Posted on 2/17/20 at 2:35 pm to Centinel
Anyone thinking climate change is a mass extinction event is retarded or brainwashed.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 2:37 pm to agregime1
This just in... Jeff Bezos wipes arse with toilet paper killing a portion the world's trees.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 2:39 pm to CharlesLSU
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ok, lets play this game:
Problem is, MANY have made...…
duck duck duck
Well, I'll give you credit. You went from utterly simplistic statements to statements that make no sense.
Congrats?
Posted on 2/17/20 at 2:40 pm to crewdepoo
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Are you just pulling numbers and words out of your arse
LINK
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. Recall that Bedford and Cook lumped together those who believe that humans are the main cause with those who believe that humans are a cause. Cook et al did not report the percent of abstracts in which the scientists said that humans are the main cause of global warming. But Bedford and Cook (the same Cook), citing Cook et al, misrepresented the results of Cook et al.
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of the 11,944 abstracts that Cook et al examined, only 64 claimed explicitly that humans are the main cause of global warming.
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So 64 out of 11,944, or 0.5%, take the view that humans are the main cause of global warming. But that includes all abstracts, including those that did not take a position. It would be nice to take the 64 as a percent of those that did take a position. Unfortunately, in their data set, Cook et al put 4a, those that do not address the cause of global warming, with 4b, those that express the view that humans’ role in global warming is uncertain or undefined. It would be nice to separate them, but we can’t unless we have the even rawer data. So let’s generously conclude that everyone in category 4 has expressed no view. That’s a total of 7970, leaving a total of 3,974 that have expressed a view. The 64 who think the main cause is humans is, drum roll please: 1.6%.
raw data
Just a simple scrolling of the raw data shows majority of those polled selected 2,4. First number being category, 2nd number being endorsement.
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Category
2,Impacts
3,Mitigation
4,Methods
5,Paleoclimate
8,Not climate related
9,Not Peer-Reviewed
10,No Abstract
Endorsement
1,Explicitly endorses and quantifies AGW as 50+%
2,Explicitly endorses but does not quantify or minimise
3,Implicitly endorses AGW without minimising it
4,No Position
5,Implicitly minimizes/rejects AGW
6,Explicitly minimizes/rejects AGW but does not quantify
7,Explicitly minimizes/rejects AGW as less than 50%
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 2/17/20 at 2:41 pm to CharlesLSU
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The earth has NEVER heated this quick.
you do not know this at all and to even act like you do is exactly why people are skeptical of this bullshite
Posted on 2/17/20 at 2:47 pm to CharlesLSU
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The earth has NEVER heated this quick.
Fact, Earth is in a state of global cooling. Lack of sunspot activity.
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But that is not all. Earth is also currently experiencing a surprisingly long period with very low sunspot activity. That is associated with the earth's history with even lower, colder temperatures. The pattern was seen during a period known as the Dalton Minimum from 1790 to 1830, which saw temperature readings decline by two degrees in a 20-year period, and the noted Year Without A Summer in 1816.
Even worse was the period known as the Maunder Minimum from 1645 to 1715, which saw only about 50 sunspots during one 30-year period within the cycle, compared to a typical 40,000 to 50,000 sunspots during such periods in modern times. The Maunder Minimum coincided with the coldest part of the Little Ice Age, which the earth suffered from about 1350 to 1850. The Maunder Minimum saw sharply reduced agricultural output, and widespread human suffering, disease and premature death.
The outstanding question now is just how cold this present cold cycle will get. Will it be modest like the cooling from the late 1940s to late 1970s? Or will the lack of sunspots drive us all the way down to the Dalton Minimum, or even the Maunder Minimum?
LINK
Posted on 2/17/20 at 2:49 pm to BugAC
Also from the Bray and Von storch survey
Posted on 2/17/20 at 2:49 pm to agregime1
The carbon credits alone for making Amazon carbon neutral are probably worth more than $10 billion.
$10 billion now for much more later.
$10 billion now for much more later.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 2:52 pm to agregime1
How can this be when climate change is fake? Bezos must not be following the money.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 2:52 pm to crewdepoo
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Way to bring a no-bias link to the discussion. But your Link did mention that it was consensus that man can warm the planet
1. Asks for link
2. OP provides link
3. Lefty gets upset link is provided
4. I laugh
5. Lefty gets upset again
Posted on 2/17/20 at 2:53 pm to agregime1
Like pouring gasoline on money and setting it on fire. Complete waste of money.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 2:55 pm to crewdepoo
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Also from the Bray and Von storch survey
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of 2,059 climate scientists from 34 different countries, the third survey on this topic by these authors.[28] A web link with a unique identifier was given to each respondent to eliminate multiple responses. A total of 375 responses were received giving an overall response rate of 18%
Hmmm....
and
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In the section on climate change impacts, questions 20 and 21 were relevant to scientific opinion on climate change.
2 questions???
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Question 20, "How convinced are you that climate change, whether natural or anthropogenic, is occurring now?" Answers: 67.1% very much convinced (7), 26.7% to some large extent (5–6), 6.2% said to some small extent (2–4), none said not at all. Question 21, "How convinced are you that most of recent or near future climate change is, or will be, a result of anthropogenic causes?" Answers: 34.6% very much convinced (7), 48.9% being convinced to a large extent (5–6), 15.1% to a small extent (2–4), and 1.35% not convinced at all (1).
LINK
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:07 pm to BugAC
So 83.5% are convinced to a large extent or very much convinced that cc is due to anthropogenic causes. Some would say that’s consensus.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:08 pm to crewdepoo
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How convinced are you that most of recent or near future climate change is, or will be, a result of anthropogenic causes?
That’s a whole lot of qualifications for a question. Almost like they are casting a wide net
Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:09 pm to agregime1
Smart enough to make billions, yet dumb enough to give to climate change.
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