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re: Worlds richest man donates $10B to... Climate Change

Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:55 pm to
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
178355 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:55 pm to
Imagine wasting money on something stupid like this instead of using it for something that really impacts people like feeding and sheltering people in poverty or medical research.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42767 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 4:46 am to
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Love it. This is a frick you to the Poli Board if there ever was one.


How?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42767 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 4:52 am to
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You’re right but the writing is in the wall that we have greatly exacerbated the speed which is the whole problem.


No, there’s not. That hockey stick graph has been proven false. The recorded temperatures have been manipulated, filtered, and altered to get more grant money from governments and taxes.

Your post earlier about not wanting to trash the world is spot on. We shouldn’t trash the world, but don’t tell me a substance that is literal plant building blocks and food is what’s causing it even when its greenhouse gas ability is dwarfed by other chemicals and possibly over stated to begin with.

Let’s talk actual pollution of the trashy mother fricker throwing the 7/11 big gulp out the window. Or the rivers in Vietnam so polluted locals cannot drink them due to manufacturing literally dumping their waste into them.

Or the fact that over 50% of foreign seafood tested fails inspection at US customs due to pollutants such as metals and organic chemicals. Good thing they only check 10% of shipments.

We can have legitimate discussion on taking car elf the planet and reducing pollution. We can make actual improvements on it right here, right now, in the US. But don’t try and tell me the government needs to regulate and stifle manufacturing, production, fossil fuels production/usage here in the US and us not don jack shite about China, India, and the entire SE Asian region.

Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42767 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 4:56 am to
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Imagine wasting money on something stupid like this instead of using it for something that really impacts people like feeding and sheltering people in poverty or medical research.


The exact same thing could have been said about NASA and the space race. I don’t get why people are so bent out of shape about a guy putting up private money to fund research of any kind. It’s his own money, and who knows, maybe $10 billion will actually get results, unlike these red tape riddled, kick back fueled government grants
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
39646 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 5:33 am to
He must be planning on running for President or something


No other reason to piss away 10 billion like that
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
21870 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 5:35 am to
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What about assholes?
I work for one
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 6:28 am to
When things are the same in 20 years, Jeff will be hailed as a hero for saving earth.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
11131 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:53 am to
You name is oilfieldbiology. I’m sure your opinion isn’t bias at all. Are you even a biologist?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42767 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:57 am to
I never said my opinion wasn’t. I acknowledge I work in the oil industry. As for am I a biologist, not in the sense that I teach biology classes or measure the populations of ridge back spotted tadpoles, but my work is 70% biology and 30% chemistry from a technical stand point.

But nothing I brought here is opinion so who gives a crap what my bias is? Do you agree or disagree with my posts addressing real pollution problems that can actually be fixed?
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32421 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 9:14 am to
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This has me considering a name change to "climate change"


Good luck with that. All I wanted was the S capitalized and got nowhere fast with that.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
11131 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:36 am to
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Do you agree or disagree with my posts addressing real pollution problems that can actually be fixed?
I disagree with the The fact that you don’t believe at pollution is a real problem with investing in.
Posted by RazorBroncs
Possesses the largest
Member since Sep 2013
16474 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:39 am to
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Many of the world's most at-risk agricultural areas (e.g., Africa and coastal regions) will be severely challenged by climate change, which will lead to even greater rates of food insecurity and, ultimately high rates of climate migration. DOD didn't call climate change a national security issue for no reason. 

I know better than to read climate threads on TD, but it is a good gauge of the intellectual capacity and issue awareness of many posters.

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at-risk agricultural areas

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severely challenged by climate change,

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food insecurity 

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climate migration

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climate change a national security issue 

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intellectual capacity and issue awareness


Did anybody else get BINGO on their climate change buzzword and catchphrase cards? I win!
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46721 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:39 am to
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and something China is definitely strategically placing itself ahead of us.


God you're naive.

China doesn't give two fricks about the environment. They just pander to people like you who take what people (and governments) say at face value.


Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
27557 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:43 am to
Is this the thing where we restrict the heck out of American companies and turn a blind eye to China who makes everything?

It’s all about making a new revenue stream called “carbon credits”.

This is global warming, but when the earth didn’t get warmer they had to re-label it.
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 11:45 am
Posted by kftiger1
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
199 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:47 am to
I can't wait to see what a $10,000,000,000 air conditioner looks like!!!
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31597 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:49 am to
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China doesn't give two fricks about the environment. They just pander to people like you who take what people (and governments) say at face value.



They care about money and realize the future lies in green tech and renewable energy so they are wisely positioning themselves to be the front runner in that. The US could be but we have too many people taking some sort of political offense to the idea that humans can have an effect on the planet.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46721 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:50 am to
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Per capita we are the problem.


Per capita doesn't mean dick to a global issue. The US isn't the problem. We haven't been for at least 30 years.

And I'll ask you (and everyone else preaching in this thread) the same question I always ask:

So what? What is your solution? Be specific.

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46721 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:53 am to
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They care about money and realize the future lies in green tech and renewable energy so they are wisely positioning themselves to be the front runner in that.


No, they're positioning themselves to exploit the west's idiotic belief that solar and wind energies can power a stable grid. They're not doing it for their own country. Again, you are naive.

We have the ability to create plenty of green energy right now in this country, but the "environmentalists" want nothing to do with it.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31597 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:57 am to
I agree environmentalists can stand in the way, nuclear is the biggest example. But people get their panties in a wad over the idea of having solar and wind. And it has everything to do with D vs R partisan politics.
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 12:16 pm
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
33812 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 12:02 pm to
sure it does but how much of an impact. I need hard evidence and not muh feelings

0.1%? 1%? 99%? it makes a difference
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