re: World's largest lithium battery plant (Vista Power Plant) on fire in Moss Landing, CA

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California single handily destroying and erasing the entire progress of environmentalists for the last few decades in a couple weeks is ironic.

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This is what happens when you replace reality with "want".

ETA physics says frick your woke.

I deal with HF all the time within petro-refining & refrigerant manufacturing. Very nasty shite.

But i am genuinely curious as well, why exactly would this event result in a massive HF release? What are they using the HF acid for in lithuim battery manufacturing?

And they are worried about gas cars

They just set clean air back 40 years

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why does that clean energy plant have two huge smokestacks?

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That is the power plant next door. These battery facilities are generally near a traditional power plant. This is not a battery manufacturing facility but an energy storage facility.

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But i am genuinely curious as well, why exactly would this event result in a massive HF release? What are they using the HF acid for in lithuim battery manufacturing?

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As the lithium batteries burn, the electrolyte components decompose and break down into PF5 and HF. This becomes accelerated as moisture reacts with PF5 to further decompose and produce HF and phosphoric acid. When HF binds with water it becomes hydrofluoric acid.

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why does that clean energy plant have two huge smokestacks?

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That's the Moss Landing Power Plant operated that was once operated by Dynegy and now operated by Vistra. It was a combined-cycle power plant (converted from coal to Natural Gas) when I visited there a little over 15 years ago. I think it has around 1,000 MW generating capacity.

This is not a Battery Plant that makes batteries. This is a Battery grid storage facility. So, like a Coal Plant doesn't make coal...but generates/distributes energy from coal...this battery plant stores and distributes energy from the Gas-Fired Power Generating Plant.

That's some serious pollution

Now we’re cooking. Tool and Beastie Boys in a thread about a lithium battery explosion and fire.

It better not mess with Phil’s business, would anger me.

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It better not mess with Phil’s business, would anger me.

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They moved some time ago.The new location is in Castroville. It was hot and humid inside when we went and next to no outdoor dining tables. Nothing like the old place and no beach access.