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re: Women gets full body MRI.. Discovers she has non-ruptured aneurysm

Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
3676 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:11 pm to
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And again, what exact cancers are these better than the current gold standards to screen for?


There are a few without good screening tests. Ovarian cancer for one.

But I could see these things leading to a lot of unnecessary pelvic surgery.
Posted by RebelSquared
Member since Oct 2024
137 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:17 pm to
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They're really not. MRIs are expensive, time consuming to perform and time consuming to read, especially a whole body. That is the complete opposite of what you want in a preventative screening exam.


Exactly.



Posted by Haystack
Member since Nov 2011
1049 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:23 pm to
I didn’t have a full body MRI but was having some leg pain that was new. It ended up being a tumor on my spinal cord in the S1 area. Finding it was a blessing.
Posted by RebelSquared
Member since Oct 2024
137 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:25 pm to
If you were having unexplained pain the MRI was for diagnostic purposes not screening.

I am glad they found the cause and hope you are doing okay.
Posted by Mlear
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
206 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:08 pm to
This whole thing is an advert doofus.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:10 pm to
Probably. But it's a good reminder to get yourself checked out.

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doofus

I'm just the messenger. No need for hostility..
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 2:11 pm
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
3188 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 3:44 pm to
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I've got an organ for her if she misses her spleen


Lose a spleen
Gain a splenis

Seems like a net wash
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93289 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 4:27 pm to
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Blackburn details in a now-viral TikTok her decision
Posted by hayden7cub
Mississippi
Member since Mar 2019
415 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 4:40 pm to
I sell MRIs and no BS, whole body MRI scans is the future in terms of discovery and prevention.
Posted by SidetrackSilvera
Member since Nov 2012
2821 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:42 pm to
Bony detail??? What, are we bloodletting and using leeches again??? Modern science doesn’t care about bony detail.
Posted by LSUtwolves
Member since Jun 2016
1111 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 6:52 pm to
$2500 for a full body mri is crazy cheap.

professional fees is the least that goes into pricing an mri. technical fees are where the price comes in.

i would want $2500 just in professional fees to read a full body mri.

there's so much liability there.
Posted by LSUtwolves
Member since Jun 2016
1111 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:02 pm to
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Comparatively, MRI has terrible spatial resolution compared to CT and Radiography. So when looking for tiny things such as lung nodules, small pancreatic lesions, and small aneurysms you want the best spatial resolution. For example, we don't currently use MRI for lung cancer screening, we use CT which has much better detection for small lesions.

MRI is great contrast resolution (telling the difference between different tissues) for characterizing things and seeing the spread and extent of something initially seen other imaging modalities.

Furthermore, to acquire a whole-body MRI you have to crank up the field of view on the scanner which further degrades the spatial resolution of the scan. And forget about finding anything useful in anything that moves, the bowel, the lungs etc., or anything really small like small pancreatic lesions. Also, these companies aren't using contrast which lessens the sensitivity of the scans and they are relying on a concept called diffusion weighting to find these tumors. The problem is not all things that restrict diffusion are tumors and not all tumors restrict diffusion.


nice another rad. what specialty do you practice?

also, if these end up becoming a common place thing, i just can't imagine the rad that would be okay reading such a shite study and putting themselves on the line like that. I feel like my read would basically be "limited study given technical parameters. limited diagnostic value."
Posted by Mariner
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jul 2009
2638 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:14 pm to
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Annual full body MRIs for anyone over 40 is going to become the norm eventually.


Is this covered by private insurance? I think want to get one.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4940 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:22 pm to
“ full body CT once a year”

Not a Dr. but that seems like a lot of radiation to me.
Maybe Mr.Spock would weigh in.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35323 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:29 pm to
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Annual full body MRIs for anyone over 40 is going to become the norm eventually.


I basically had this (and CT/PETs) in early 40s due to cancer. Oncologist explained that anyone over 40 looking at their anatomy in detail is going to see some shite. I have a big-assed benign cysts on a kidney, for example.

I’d almost rather not know, but obviously that’s not the case if they find something like this lady did.

Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
5543 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:42 pm to
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MrSpock


Why not just have a complete CT body scan?

Wouldn't the 128 slice scan reveal potential health issues better?

Several folks have mentioned heart issues.
There is a new technique that came out over a year ago called the Cleerly coronary analysis which is non-invasive .
It uses AI technology to look for soft plaque in the arteries and predicts artery issues.
The Cleerly scan is said to be superior to the standard CAC score test.

Posted by LSUtwolves
Member since Jun 2016
1111 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:48 pm to
I just found a sample mri report from the whole body mri company.

It’s AI bullshite and the majority of the report is just disclaimers.

It’s a worthless study.

I’m a radiologist and use AI as a tool but it’s nowhere close to being of any use.

They can cherry pick the few crazy cases that made a difference, but this is pseudoscience.


LINK
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:52 pm to
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Bony detail??? What, are we bloodletting and using leeches again??? Modern science doesn’t care about bony detail.

Excuse me?
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 7:55 pm to
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I feel like my read would basically be "limited study given technical parameters. limited diagnostic value."

Sounds like a pretty standard radiology read to me
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27780 posts
Posted on 3/20/25 at 8:06 pm to
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bet you can negotiate that even


I doubt it. Didn’t read the article but I assume a full body MRI is a cash only exam.

Every mri place has the cash option. MRI brain on insurance is probably 2500-3500. Then you pay deductible and your 10-30% of that price. That’s one body part. Cash MRI brain? Probably 250-500 bucks. My cervical spine MRI cost 300. Total that all up for a full body scan. $2500 is about right give or take 500 dollars.


BTW how fricking long is that study. A brain or neck is probably 30 minutes. Lower back 30-45. I can’t imagine how long a full body takes. That’s a long time in that little tube.
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