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re: Woman loses home after HOA auctions nearly $500K home for $30K

Posted on 7/24/18 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12784 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 3:36 pm to
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don't think an HOA lien is a tax lien.


That's a given. Was simply stating the case in which the lien auction wipes out the other liens.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24465 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 4:24 pm to
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so, just to be clear, whomever picked it up at auction did not buy it with a clear title, will have to pay whatever back taxes and such are owed, thus the $30k sale price (in addition to whatever dilapidated condition the home might be in)


Exactly. And boot her from the house and deal with whatever mess she leaves behind. So the guy might make $100k here, but he's going to have $300k tied up in multiple PITA nasty legal battles. Dealing with a foreclosure department and a lady that had her house taken from her is a PITA.

Let me also say, that I'm guessing the HOA moved forward because the bank was stalling. Everyone is saying why didn't the bank move forward first? Well they'll likely get their cut no matter what. But the damn banks with these foreclosures, they only want so many foreclosures at a time. I've seen banks let people sit for years and years. So the HOA said screw it and moved forward on their own.

On a final note, I'd bet the HOA racked up $20k in legal fees here. Maybe more, which will have to be paid out by the buyer additionally.

As a past HOA board member, I'll tell you the biggest PITA was owners that were lawyers. Because they'd threaten BS all the time as their time was free and the HOA had to pay. So they'd threaten BS that would cost the HOA more than the owner owed in legal fees routinely.
This post was edited on 7/24/18 at 4:26 pm
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 4:30 pm to
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HOAs are fricking awful.


Some?

I'm sure

All?

Hardly
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
99679 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 4:49 pm to
30k?

Yeah thats bullshite
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69697 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 4:51 pm to
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but to exercise the collection process put into place to protect all residents


How is selling a $500,000 house for $30,000 protecting residents?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91873 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 4:55 pm to
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Probably why they only paid $30k. If the mortgage company has a lien on the property title wont be clear until that goes away. He eseentially bought the mortgage at that point.


Kinda right.

There are plenty of examples of HOA superpriority liens extinguishing primary mortgage liens.

However, it doesn't mean the bank won't take the matter to court.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
23126 posts
Posted on 7/24/18 at 6:58 pm to
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I realize situations change and the unthinkable can happen but why are you not upset with the woman for not downsizing instead of essentially squatting
You would think selling a 400k home when you are bankrupt would be the way to go.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38475 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:15 am to
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Loans owned by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac cannot be pre-empted by the HOA liens, f


Correct and FHA as well. Soooooooo I would assume that this was a sub prime loan where nothing is escrowed. My guess is that she was uninsured and on top of that probably delinquent on property taxes as well. It was a matter of time for this lady.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34403 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:47 am to
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years of resident . . . . non-communication

She left them no choice
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