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re: With Disney dying on a hill for the LGBTQ+abcdlmnop people, is Universal making bank?
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:27 am to lsupride87
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:27 am to lsupride87
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Just asking, do you agree with that part of the bill?
Which part specifically, and please link me to actual language and not your interpretation.
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:28 am to lsupride87
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They can opt of allowing their kid to speak with the guidance counselor
This was the case when I went to school. I imagine K-3rd grade counselors don't exactly get into Freud depths of analysis.
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 9:29 am
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:28 am to LNCHBOX
quote:I have linked the actual language roughly four times, but here it is again.
Which part specifically, and please link me to actual language and not your interpretation.
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At the beginning of the school year, each school district shall notify parents of each healthcare service offered at their student’s school and the option to withhold consent or decline any specific service.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:29 am to Froman
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It’s a classic case of trying to will something into existence. They are mad at Disney for whatever reason so they pretend and convince others to pretend that Disney is “struggling” when they are, in reality, continuing to dominate entertainment.
I find it funny the democrats all of a sudden are for big corporations not paying taxes. It’s a strange thing.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:29 am to lsupride87
Do you live in and have kids in public school in Florida?
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:29 am to lsupride87
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At the beginning of the school year, each school district shall notify parents of each healthcare service offered at their student’s school and the option to withhold consent or decline any specific service.
And your argument is that this will lead to child abuse going unnoticed?
I'd like to see the rest of the language, to just a snippet as well.
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 9:31 am
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:30 am to lsupride87
Again, this is false. The kid can speak to anyone on his or her own. The guidance counselor isn’t locked away in a closed room with keys only given to specific kids. What’s limited through an opt out is the service itself of counseling and advice TO the student. But the guidance counselor (if that’s who the kid approaches) can still get other authorities involved if necessary. This law doesn’t make a kid talking to an adult illegal. Y’all are losing your minds.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:30 am to lsupride87
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At the beginning of the school year, each school district shall notify parents of each healthcare service offered at their student’s school and the option to withhold consent or decline any specific service.
We get that when kids enroll here. ITs normal.
Who told you this is rare?
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 9:33 am
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:30 am to BluegrassBelle
quote:Their teachers, since they have direct access to them as an authority figure almost daily.
Who do you think kids generally report their abuse to?
School counselors will likely be further down the list, behind other individuals like sports coaches, friends, parents, and doctors.
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 9:32 am
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:30 am to lsupride87
You think that section keeps kids from reporting abuse?
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:31 am to lsupride87
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provided by actual guidance counselor experts
Lol these are the same people that say you need racial equity counseling for saying colored people instead of people of color.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:31 am to JustinBRLA
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I live an hour from Disney. We went this weekend and it was packed as usual. Not sure what hill you think they're dying on. They just aren't bothered by the existence of gay people . DeSantis is a blowhard just like Trump. Focus hard on hot button issues that really don't matter, turn people against other people even though its of no consequence to themselves. Nothing to see there, just low-IQ shitty humans.
Hard to believe people like you really exist. You’re like a troll except serious.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:31 am to Open Your Eyes
Belle is sometimes on point.
The reality is that DeSantis and Florida are trying to guard not against discrete instances, but a flood of activism masquerading as counseling/teaching that have infiltrated and frankly taken over counseling and education.
The hard truth is that I don't want my 6 year old talking to a public school counselor or social worker at all, ever. Why? Because I've got 3 mental health counselors in my family and I know what they're taught and the mindless drones they tend to become. I simply do not trust them or the community at large. On this board we portray it as some secret agenda activism, but that's not it. It's completely baked into the education and profession, they don't think of it as activism or subverting parenting.
The reality is that DeSantis and Florida are trying to guard not against discrete instances, but a flood of activism masquerading as counseling/teaching that have infiltrated and frankly taken over counseling and education.
The hard truth is that I don't want my 6 year old talking to a public school counselor or social worker at all, ever. Why? Because I've got 3 mental health counselors in my family and I know what they're taught and the mindless drones they tend to become. I simply do not trust them or the community at large. On this board we portray it as some secret agenda activism, but that's not it. It's completely baked into the education and profession, they don't think of it as activism or subverting parenting.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:32 am to Scruffy
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Their teachers, since they have direct access to them as an authority figure almost daily. School counselors will likely be further down the list.
Not usually, they typically ask to speak to a counselor (unless the teacher sees physical markers) if they’re going to verbally disclose.
Teachers reports are usually from what they observe (bruises, marks) or changes in behavior.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:33 am to LNCHBOX
quote:Yes. I also think it needs to be addressed
And your argument is that this will lead to child abuse going unnoticed?
For people like us, it doesn’t seem like an issue because we would never be the reason our kids need to see a counselor. However, that isn’t the case for some kids. There has to be a disconnect of parent/kid/counselor for certain issues. That’s my only point.
It isn’t really all that contentious of a point either, I’m completely fine with blocking teachers discussing anything and everything regarding sexuality with kids in the classroom. It’s completely unnecessary
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 9:34 am
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:34 am to BluegrassBelle
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Not usually, they typically ask to speak to a counselor
K-3? lol
They almost always go to the person they are the most comfortable with. Its usually the teacher.
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 9:36 am
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:35 am to lsupride87
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For people like us, it doesn’t seem like an issue because we would never be the reason our kids need to see a counselor. However, that isn’t the case for some kids. There has to be a disconnect of parent/kid/counselor for certain issues. That’s my only point.
I don't see how this bill eliminates that.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:35 am to dgnx6
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I find it funny the democrats all of a sudden are for big corporations not paying taxes. It’s a strange thing.
Also strange how strongly they cling to their SJW no matter how asinine. I mean, there is nothing too goofy. Chopping off a first graders dick? Hell yeah, if that’s what I’m told to support.
Modern Dems would scream at the sky if they heard a Clinton campaign speech from 1992.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:36 am to RogerTheShrubber
My 18 month old specifically asked to speak to someone with an Ed.S or above
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:36 am to BluegrassBelle
Most abuse reports come from teacher observations rather than students own mouths. When the student talks it’s usually with a friend and the friend reports it. The student doesn’t often report and it’s not until after they get approached about something suspected. Abuse is on the list of things teachers and admin are legally obligated to report. If they suspect it, they can still speak to the student. This law doesn’t remove those obligations as y’all seem to think.
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