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re: With Disney dying on a hill for the LGBTQ+abcdlmnop people, is Universal making bank?

Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:54 am to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:54 am to
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So if the counselor listens to a kid that reports abuse, he broke this law according to you? That’s your interpretation? Seriously?


Yo me? No because they’re still following their ethical code as a counselor.

To a parent or community member? I guarantee someone would. Especially if the parent or family member is the abuser themselves.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:54 am to
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i don't think i've ever seen a more convincing argument for private/catholic school than this thread

The Catholic school I went to had mandatory meetings with the guidance counselor

Divorced kids actually had to go more often as well
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 9:55 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:55 am to
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I guarantee someone would


Which does not matter.

The law matters.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:56 am to
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I argue it’s not, it’s an obligation a parent cannot opt out of.


If they’re able to get into the office to discuss it, sure. Or if they disclose to the teacher first, then sure.

But if they don’t verbalize it to the teacher and want to talk to the counselor instead, that’s where the opt-out becomes an issue.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:56 am to
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The child is much more likely to approach the teacher they see every day, not a counselor who they may not even know.
And if the kid says “Mrs. Jones, I need to talk with you about something at hone.” The teacher is supposed to tell the kid no according to this law. Do you agree with that?
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:57 am to
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You tell me?


I’m not the one that shared an opinion on something that should be verifiable.

I just figured you would have some reasonable answer based on your statement.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:57 am to
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I need to talk with you about something at hone.” The teacher is supposed to tell the kid no according to this law.


Thats not true. Progs being progs,
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Posted by USMCguy121
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:57 am to
People in this thread falling over themselves to protect tranny groomers.

Thanks for exposing them.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:57 am to
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And if the kid says “Mrs. Jones, I need to talk with you about something at hone.” The teacher is supposed to tell the kid no according to this law. Do you agree with that?


No it doesn’t.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:57 am to
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And if the kid says “Mrs. Jones, I need to talk with you about something at hone.” The teacher is supposed to tell the kid no according to this law.


Where does the law saw that?
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:57 am to
Ok, so guys, I'm asking genuinely - is there a solution for healthy families that can eliminate your concern?

That's the issue, right? I mean, I get it, bad people could opt out to protect themselves. But good people want to opt out to protect their kids. I suspect Belle, you think that's unnecessary because counselors generally don't see conservative, Christian parents as the enemy.

But I suspect you would acknowledge that the profession is generally at odds with us, and I'm not sure how to reconcile that.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:58 am to
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The teacher is supposed to tell the kid no according to this law.


What section keeps the teacher from talking to the kid?
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:58 am to
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The teacher is supposed to tell the kid no according to this law. Do you agree with that?


No, no I do not agree with that.

Holy shite.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:59 am to
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What section keeps the teacher from talking to the kid?


This is where the lies and drama come in. They get proven wrong, instead of backing off they choose a new approach.
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Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:02 am to
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And if the kid says “Mrs. Jones, I need to talk with you about something at hone.” The teacher is supposed to tell the kid no according to this law. Do you agree with that?


No. Nothing in that law stops a child from approaching a teacher or other school employee.

I don't even see how you can make that leap using any kind of logic.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:02 am to
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If the counselor sits down with a kid in his office whose parents opted out, yea the counselor absolutely would be breaking the law. You disagree?
Of course I do. You think the law prohibits two people from talking… about anything… for any reason. The function of the counselor is to provide guidance and advise. If he’s not doing that, he’s not breaking this law in the event a parent opts out. But you’re saying they could be sitting there talking about the pels game Friday and he’s in violation of an opt out. It’s hilarious at this point.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:03 am to
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Ok, so guys, I'm asking genuinely - is there a solution for healthy families that can eliminate your concern? That's the issue, right? I mean, I get it, bad people could opt out to protect themselves. But good people want to opt out to protect their kids. I suspect Belle, you think that's unnecessary because counselors generally don't see conservative, Christian parents as the enemy. But I suspect you would acknowledge that the profession is generally at odds with us, and I'm not sure how to reconcile that.


I guess my question is why would you opt out of your kid taking to a guidance counselor in general?

I’m not talking about for sex education or for some gender discussion.

Are you honestly at odds with that? I think that’s a bit much.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:04 am to
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is there a solution for healthy families that can eliminate your concern?
The ultimate solution is simple, actually.

Teachers learn to simply teach.

Don’t throw in politics or social constructs.

You teach math? Then teach math.

I graduated from elementary school 20+ years ago and I had no idea if my teachers were married or lived somewhere else besides the classroom.

Modern teachers and teaching methods are abysmal. We have continued to decline year on year.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:04 am to
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s why would you opt out of your kid taking to a guidance counselor in general?


Because some have terrible reputations and are shitty people. They don't know what's best for your child, you do.


This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 10:05 am
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88021 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:04 am to
You went to a private school. They could do whatever they want. Private schools in Florida can still do whatever they want. Thanks for the useless anecdote.
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