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Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:55 am
Posted by RaisingCanesOnly
Member since Jan 2020
44 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:55 am
Anyone have any insight into the details of why residential windows are taking so long right now? Preferably someone in the industry - not looking for "everything in the supply chain is slow right now" type answers
Posted by leftyloosey
Member since Jan 2022
574 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:57 am to
Short term supply throttle to spike prices, then keep prices high while gradually restoring supply.

Prove me wrong.
Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2012
10602 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:57 am to
Biden did that.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35644 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:57 am to
It's something that is actually being affected by Global Warming. Windows are made out of glass which as we know is made out of sand. Every year we are losing more and more of our coastline to rising sea levels. This results in an ever decreasing supply of sand. It's simple economics.
Posted by MoisterOyster
On a reef
Member since May 2017
112 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 10:58 am to
Commercial GC here, glazing just got pushed back until august on a car dealership that we are building.. ordered it about 6 months ago to.
Posted by RaisingCanesOnly
Member since Jan 2020
44 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 11:01 am to
quote:

Commercial GC here, glazing just got pushed back until august on a car dealership that we are building.. ordered it about 6 months ago to.



HOLY
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3710 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 11:02 am to
There’s a guy lives near me in Grant parish building a house.Couldn’t get windows,ended up driving to New Mexico to get what he needed.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64355 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 11:05 am to
I will add it's not just problems on supply side, it's also a construction boom in many areas. Double Whammy.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119638 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 11:09 am to
Ask the President
Posted by bengalman
In da Country
Member since Feb 2007
3216 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 11:12 am to
took ~8 mos to get my house windows. Yes pretty pathetic
Posted by Montezuma
Member since Apr 2013
3629 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 11:15 am to
Tons of home remodels and new construction to go along with the supply chain issues. Friends have had to wait for months for new windows. Hot tubs were an issue too.
Posted by griddle
Member since Jan 2017
147 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 11:16 am to
Petroleum by products shortages.

Vinyl, plastics, roofing shingles, etc.

The list goes on. This is a fallout from shutting everything down in 2020. We refined less crude oil but people kept consuming products.

The system is playing "catch-up" but it may take years to catch back up.

2 weeks to flatten the curve!
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36117 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 11:16 am to
quote:

Ask the President
I gave that answer to my clients. They don't think you're funny either.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27177 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 11:17 am to
quote:

Preferably someone in the industry


Hey! That's me. I supply glass to window companies.

quote:

not looking for "everything in the supply chain is slow right now" type answers


Then I don't know what to tell you. Demand is outpacing supply. It's pretty much that simple. I'm supplying more glass to my customers than I was pre-covid, but there's even more demand now. Window companies are operating as fast as they can, but when you receive two orders for every one order you complete, then lead times are obviously going to increase.
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17237 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 11:17 am to
We just finished building last month. Our windows took about 6 months from when we ordered.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
24127 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 11:18 am to
Got my Pella windows for our remodel sitting in my garage. They go in tomorrow. I think we ordered them in Late Oct, and we've had them since early Jan. Been waiting on good weather.
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
39794 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 11:23 am to
not just windows. commercial wood doors are 5 months. hollow metal has gotten better though, but still about 4 months
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27177 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 11:23 am to
quote:

Commercial GC here, glazing just got pushed back until august on a car dealership that we are building.. ordered it about 6 months ago to.


Where are you located? Is it a hurricane-resistant curtainwall and have custom doors? Anything special about the glass make-up (structural lamination/color/etc)? Those are the only things I've really seen pushed back, and even then, not that much. Your basic storefront and curtainwall has seen some increases in lead times, but not as much as what you are experiencing.
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
39794 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 11:24 am to
quote:

Then I don't know what to tell you.
you dont have 1 conspiracy theory this guy can buy into?!?!
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37619 posts
Posted on 3/7/22 at 11:33 am to
quote:

quote: Preferably someone in the industry

Hey! That's me. I supply glass to window companies.

quote: not looking for "everything in the supply chain is slow right now" type answers

Then I don't know what to tell you. Demand is outpacing supply. It's pretty much that simple. I'm supplying more glass to my customers than I was pre-covid, but there's even more demand now. Window companies are operating as fast as they can, but when you receive two orders for every one order you complete, then lead times are obviously going to increase.


I love this answer so much.
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