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re: Will this century see a return to the suburbs?
Posted on 6/7/20 at 1:58 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Posted on 6/7/20 at 1:58 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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Where’s all of it going to go? Are they going to start building high rises in the burbs?
It’s not like there aren’t large companies already in suburbs...Chevron has a complex on the northshore that moved from Nola. Not a high rise, there is more space to spread out buildings in suburbs (I know I have already had to defend my position on “space” on this board
) However I think office space and demand will be come more fragmented in the future. Technology allows for smaller offices, and perhaps satellite offices to help with commuting and drawing from a larger talent pool. It’s already been happening for 20+ years.
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 1:58 pm to Odysseus32
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That's the biggest thing I am worried about. I'll graduate in 2 years (went back to school after a decade), and unless I'm able to find a small company looking to hire from within, my best option for employment will likely be an accounting firm in a bigger city.
Currently, my commute is 20 minutes by bike on a greenbelt. My wife if WFH and when she has to go into office it's less than a 10 minute drive. I think we are taking that for granted.
We'd be back in the burbs if we had more than one kid at home. We are too old to have any more though at this point. We'll reevaluate our situation when my daughter gets out of school in 5 years.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 1:59 pm to fallguy_1978
I feel like I’ve been reading about you wanting to leave LA after your kids move out for 5 years now. How many times have they been held back?
Posted on 6/7/20 at 1:59 pm to OceanMan
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However I think office space and demand will be come more fragmented in the future.
Bingo. Living in a hub will become unnecessary for most.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:03 pm to kingbob
Well, The Woodlands TX is quite nice;)
But, it’d be unfair to compare the typical burb to the Woodlands.
But, it’d be unfair to compare the typical burb to the Woodlands.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:03 pm to AbitaFan08
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I feel like I’ve been reading about you wanting to leave LA after your kids move out for 5 years now. How many times have they been held back?
None
I guess it just seems to be a topic that comes up a lot on here. Or my wife is right and I repeat myself too much
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:04 pm to fallguy_1978
I’m just giving you a hard time. 
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:05 pm to AbitaFan08
He wants to move to the mountains or a cooler climate
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:07 pm to AbitaFan08
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If I’m more than 10 minutes from public transit I feel like I’m on an island.
I’m now 30 minutes from the airport on a bad day and that’s the furthest I’ve been in almost a decade.
Driving a car is a much more enjoyable experience In a suburb, which to me mitigates losing out on walkabity and public transit that cities offer.
We are probably like 40 minutes from the airport, and honestly when I lived uptown it was about 30 minutes. But, we have kids so we never travel anymore
I swear I’m not trying to convince anyone to live in the suburbs just making commentary
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:07 pm to AbitaFan08
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I’m more than 10 minutes from public transit I feel like I’m on an island.
Anything more than 35 mins is an inconvenience for me. Don't want to spend $50 filing up my tank, worrying about traffic, parking, paying for parking etc
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:08 pm to fallguy_1978
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guess it just seems to be a topic that comes up a lot on here
I agree, and there will be a lot of regret in a few years for those who don't fulfill those desires. There are some incredible places in this country that quietly go unnoticed.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:09 pm to OceanMan
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I swear I’m not trying to convince anyone to live in the suburbs just making commentary
I never thought you were, nor am I trying to convince people to live in the city. Just a conversation, mate.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There are some incredible places in this country that quietly go unnoticed.
Do you happen to have photos to share by way of example?
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:11 pm to kingbob
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Why would anyone ever want to live in a suburb?
I can understand wanting to live in the city when you're in your 20's. But once you get into your 30's seems like living in the city would be terrible. I know I would have hated it.
Hell, these days I keep wanting to get further and further away.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:11 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I agree, and there will be a lot of regret in a few years for those who don't fulfill those desires. There are some incredible places in this country that quietly go unnoticed.
My wife moved around a lot as a kid. She went to like 7 different schools and was always the new kid. It was very important to her that we not do that to ours. She said she'll do whatever I want after the last one is out of the house.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:11 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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You're shortsighted. Telecommuting will open up the world of possibilities and make living near a steel and glass tower unnecessary.
Telecommuting is nothing new. Just because a lot of people could do work from home during pandemic isn't some thing businesses is just going to start permanently doing. It was a way to do work. Not the BEST way.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:11 pm to AbitaFan08
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Do you happen to have photos to share by way of example?
Do you want to tell everyone you live I need Boston for the millionth time?
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:13 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Hey look now we’re both making fun of each other’s shortcomings! Glad we’re on an equal footing, baw.
This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:13 pm to yaboidarrell
Lol. I don't see how any human being wants to be in a city especially a liberal one.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:14 pm to AbitaFan08
I think BR will continue to see the suburb move. Younger people I work with cant seem to justify buying a 2,500 sq ft house built in the 70’s / 80’s in the city for 400,000 and pay for private school, when they can get a brand new house same size or larger for less or the same amount outside the city and be able to utilize public education.
The average income here also doesn’t support the market in the city. Southdowns 1500 sq ft 3 BR can go for over 600,000 now, Pollard is not far behind in the 400 to 500 and even Kenilworth / Mag Woods is creeping up into the 400 to 500 range. Lots on undeveloped land in between can range anywhere from 120,000 to 270,000. Developers seem to be putting higher end homes on those and getting 600 to 700 for them. There are outliers in both directions and some bargains to be found, but most of the bargains require updates and large renovations.
It seems like the expense to live in the city is starting to outpace the avg income of the areas workers and they have no choice but to saddle themselves with a big project or buy turnkey outside the city.
We are quickly becoming a city where pretty much the upper middle class / rich and poor live in the city. Everyone in between is moving to the burbs, unless they are willing to rent a house or live in an apartment.
I also agreed that the AP and the LP have pretty much become “cities” themselves now.
The average income here also doesn’t support the market in the city. Southdowns 1500 sq ft 3 BR can go for over 600,000 now, Pollard is not far behind in the 400 to 500 and even Kenilworth / Mag Woods is creeping up into the 400 to 500 range. Lots on undeveloped land in between can range anywhere from 120,000 to 270,000. Developers seem to be putting higher end homes on those and getting 600 to 700 for them. There are outliers in both directions and some bargains to be found, but most of the bargains require updates and large renovations.
It seems like the expense to live in the city is starting to outpace the avg income of the areas workers and they have no choice but to saddle themselves with a big project or buy turnkey outside the city.
We are quickly becoming a city where pretty much the upper middle class / rich and poor live in the city. Everyone in between is moving to the burbs, unless they are willing to rent a house or live in an apartment.
I also agreed that the AP and the LP have pretty much become “cities” themselves now.
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