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re: Will this century see a return to the suburbs?
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:42 pm to yaboidarrell
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:42 pm to yaboidarrell
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Will this century see a return to the suburbs?
Depends on the city, obviously.
Certain cities are planned differently. For example, Dallas has an abundance of jobs all over the county and aren't confined to downtown or one "business district." Alternatively, other bigger cities, Nashville for example, still has a mass of their jobs predominately l located in one general area.
Dallas is basically one mass suburb, but I don't anticipate the mass exodus of people who reside in Nashville to go to the suburbs and/or surrounding counties. The neighborhoods are just too good.
However, other smaller cities with just a downtown and that have little economic opportunity (Jackson, TN, Jackson, MS, Little Rock, AR), then yeah, the suburbs are still the logical option. That said, no one was really migrating to live "in the city" at those listed places.
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:44 pm to kingbob
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I think this will spark the rebound of rural areas and small towns.
Amen to that.....we just made that move and have discovered the joys or exurban living. Looking around my area and neighbors out a-ways from Downtown and suburbs of Minneapolis I see that this trend had already started several years ago......unpretentious authentic living with very large lots ( we are talking acreage for most)....what pure joy. Bring me to your nearest Tractor Supply!!
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:46 pm to AbitaFan08
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Point being, just because a job CAN be done easily one way doesn’t mean it’s the best way to do it.
Traditional work culture is the biggest barrier. But that is currently being shattered.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Traditional work culture is the biggest barrier. But that is currently being shattered.
Is it? The people I've spoken with bitched about working remotely and things are pretty much back to normal where I'm at.
ETA: IMO, there is only a certain level of productivity most can achieve by working at home. Our staff and subordinates were not as productive, nor efficient, during this downtime, and that's something we expected and accounted for.
This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:48 pm to Paul Allen
I know I do. I’ve interviewed for dozens of positions in cooler climes, but the only offers have been in BR or Houston. I’ve been wanting to move to Denver area, but I’m afraid to do so without already having a job in hand.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:48 pm to yaboidarrell
Why don’t we do a flip? Let the suburbs be taken over by the unruly who don’t want cops and then the inner cities populated by the rest.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:49 pm to GentleJackJones
As soon as our new offices are built, I’ll be back to normal.
Things will change for many businesses, no doubt. But it won’t be universal.
Things will change for many businesses, no doubt. But it won’t be universal.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Traditional work culture is the biggest barrier. But that is currently being shattered.
stop lying. you live in Alaska dude. you don't know shite about city life and business
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:50 pm to GentleJackJones
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Things are pretty much back to normal where I'm at.
Good for you, I guess but that has no bearing on the future.
Unless you wrk in a job that requires constant supervision, there's really no need for an office to visit during working hours.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:51 pm to yaboidarrell
It will be interesting to see.
First, the protests are going to have very little effect. Police departments are not going to be completely disbanded to let chaos reign in some dystopian film scenario.
The vast majority of people currently living in large cities are: 1) ones that support both peaceful protests and strong measures to curb police abuse of power 2) the very wealthy that are always insulated with just a bit of inconvenience 3) younger people that love making money and enjoy what cities offer and their business isn't going to move.
It's mainly people already in the suburbs and rural areas that think "this would make me move".
What can certainly change large city dynamics will be:
1) increased "working from home"
2) the amount of people in cities that make a living from entertainment (night clubs, event production etc etc) and tourism. This will not likely be long-term but short-term one wonders how many will move to other lines of work when it seems like it may be 2021 before entertainment and tourism is back to pre-Covid levels.
However, I would think that there will be a lot of battles over "adjusting" sky rocketing rents in the short term but overall a vast amount of people, even if they have more "work at home options" will want what the cities offer: vibrant communities with pedestrian street activity, entertainment options, excitement etc etc. It's not like places like Brooklyn, SF, etc etc don't already have very large segments that have lived there and worked at home since well before the Covid mess and it's not like those places won't have people rushing to move in if rent prices drop just a little.
First, the protests are going to have very little effect. Police departments are not going to be completely disbanded to let chaos reign in some dystopian film scenario.
The vast majority of people currently living in large cities are: 1) ones that support both peaceful protests and strong measures to curb police abuse of power 2) the very wealthy that are always insulated with just a bit of inconvenience 3) younger people that love making money and enjoy what cities offer and their business isn't going to move.
It's mainly people already in the suburbs and rural areas that think "this would make me move".
What can certainly change large city dynamics will be:
1) increased "working from home"
2) the amount of people in cities that make a living from entertainment (night clubs, event production etc etc) and tourism. This will not likely be long-term but short-term one wonders how many will move to other lines of work when it seems like it may be 2021 before entertainment and tourism is back to pre-Covid levels.
However, I would think that there will be a lot of battles over "adjusting" sky rocketing rents in the short term but overall a vast amount of people, even if they have more "work at home options" will want what the cities offer: vibrant communities with pedestrian street activity, entertainment options, excitement etc etc. It's not like places like Brooklyn, SF, etc etc don't already have very large segments that have lived there and worked at home since well before the Covid mess and it's not like those places won't have people rushing to move in if rent prices drop just a little.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Unless you wrk in a job that requires constant supervision, there's really no need for an office to visit during working hours.
Factually incorrect.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:you are clueless
Unless you wrk in a job that requires constant supervision, there's really no need for an office to visit during working hours.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Do you work in an office setting? By your response, I honestly sense that you don't (and if not, I'm jealous of you). 
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:53 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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you are clueless
When you graduate beyond an hourly wage, and you don't require supervision, you'll figure it out.
Until then, enjoy your cubicle and punching a timecard.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:54 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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the trend right now is the exact opposite. good jobs are becoming more and more concentrated in a few bigger citie
15 years ago I didn't know many people that worked remotely. I know a lot of people that do it now. It's certainly becoming much more common.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Unless you wrk in a job that requires constant supervision, there's really no need for an office to visit during working hours
stop the lies boomer
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I have multiple degrees and an annual salary. I don’t keep set hours and instead of a cubicle I have my own office. But our work requires being physically present under normal circumstances.
Next argument. Or just admit you made an overly broad statement and don’t dig yourself into a deeper hole. Your call.
Next argument. Or just admit you made an overly broad statement and don’t dig yourself into a deeper hole. Your call.
This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:56 pm to GentleJackJones
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Do you work in an office setting? By your response, I honestly sense that you don't (and if not, I'm jealous of you).
Yes.
I worked from home for a few weeks, now back in the office. I was far more productive working from home.
We produce a shitload of paperwork, which is archaic.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:57 pm to AbitaFan08
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But our work requires being physically present
Nice antecdote..
I'm impressed.
Posted on 6/7/20 at 2:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Clueless, again
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