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re: Will Smith's BAC 3x the legal limit when he was shot
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:02 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:02 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Thanks alot Bin Laden
So why cant you be drunk in your car??? Or beat off in your car??? It's an extension of your home, right?
This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:02 pm to LNCHBOX
I think you can have a gun in the car while drunk, you cannot posses a gun while drunk. In the glovebox is not possession.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:03 pm to Lester Earl
quote:99% of the time, people that make that statement don't know what they are talking about.
It's an extension of your home, right?
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:03 pm to Napoleon
quote:
Hayes hit their car intentionally and hard.
This post was edited on 5/31/16 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:03 pm to Napoleon
quote:Do you have a statute to back that up?
you cannot posses a gun while drunk
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:06 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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Hard enough to push it up into another vehicle
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The shooting happened after what New Orleans police described as a minor traffic accident on Sophie Wright Place, near the intersection with Felicity Street. Police say Hayes' orange Hummer H2 hit the silver Mercedes SUV Will Smith was driving. The Mercedes then struck a dark-colored Chevrolet Impala in front of it.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:07 pm to rt3
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yeah... from the OP's nola.com link
quote:
Hayes is also accused of attempted second-degree murder for shooting Smith's wife Racquel following the April 9 chain-reaction crash in which Hayes' Hummer struck the Smiths' SUV on Sophie Wright Place near Felicity Street.
So where is the fact that he struck smith intentionally?
One could easily just say smith stopped short
It's all speculation at this point. Seems people would learn to jump to conclusions at this point. Seems a few already changing their tune. Who knew waiting for facts to play out would impact the case
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:07 pm to rt3
quote:
minor traffic accident
in your own quote.
Smith may have brake checked him.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:07 pm to lsupride87
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bullshite. At the beginning they are incredibly similar
so at what point is Will Smith slamming Hayes' head into the sidewalk?
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:07 pm to Nado Jenkins83
I'm not sure why you find that amusing.
Other than the fact that you know Hayes personally.
Other than the fact that you know Hayes personally.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:08 pm to Fun Bunch
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He killed Smith. The burden is on him to prove that his life was in imminent danger. Smith being drunk doesn't do that.
Actually, it's the state's burden to prove that he intended to and did kill him. It's his burden to prove an affirmative defense, such as self-defense. Life in imminent danger is not the only justification.
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§20. Justifiable homicide
A. A homicide is justifiable:
(1) When committed in self-defense by one who reasonably believes that he is in imminent danger of losing his life or receiving great bodily harm and that the killing is necessary to save himself from that danger.
(2) When committed for the purpose of preventing a violent or forcible felony involving danger to life or of great bodily harm by one who reasonably believes that such an offense is about to be committed and that such action is necessary for its prevention. The circumstances must be sufficient to excite the fear of a reasonable person that there would be serious danger to his own life or person if he attempted to prevent the felony without the killing.
It's all about what's reasonable and what he perceived.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:08 pm to rt3
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so at what point is Will Smith slamming Hayes' head into the sidewalk?
Whichever one is racist.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:08 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
So this is my assumption of what happened:
1. Smith drove drunk and rear ends Hayes, left scene
2. Hayes was pissed and chased
3. Hayes peeved off catches up to and rear ends Smith
4. Passenger with Smith gets out of car, rips off shirt, wants to fight Hayes
5. Hayes gets out of car
6. Smith grabs for gun out of glove box, wife fights him, Smith's gun goes off shooting wife in leg on accident
7. Hayes thinks Smith is shooting at him, Hayes kills Smith
1. Smith drove drunk and rear ends Hayes, left scene
2. Hayes was pissed and chased
3. Hayes peeved off catches up to and rear ends Smith
4. Passenger with Smith gets out of car, rips off shirt, wants to fight Hayes
5. Hayes gets out of car
6. Smith grabs for gun out of glove box, wife fights him, Smith's gun goes off shooting wife in leg on accident
7. Hayes thinks Smith is shooting at him, Hayes kills Smith
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:09 pm to rt3
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Three guns were recovered from the scene
Completely false.
The gun recovered from Smiths car was found three days later after a search warrant was issued and executed.
So why did NOPD have to wait three days to get a search warrant to search Smith's car?
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:09 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
you know Hayes personally.
yeah he signed a jersey for my kid once.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:10 pm to Fun Bunch
what's funnier is I am saying I feel like Hayes wasn't in the wrong.
I can't see how anyone can dispute that Hayes intentionally slammed the shite out of Will's Suv.
I can't see how anyone can dispute that Hayes intentionally slammed the shite out of Will's Suv.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:10 pm to baldona
quote:
So this is my assumption of what happened:
1. Smith drove drunk and rear ends Hayes, left scene
2. Hayes was pissed and chased
3. Hayes peeved off catches up to and rear ends Smith
4. Passenger with Smith gets out of car, rips off shirt, wants to fight Hayes
5. Hayes gets out of car
6. Smith grabs for gun out of glove box, wife fights him, Smith's gun goes off shooting wife in leg on accident
7. Hayes thinks Smith is shooting at him, Hayes kills Smith
Naw.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:10 pm to Napoleon
Aren't there pictures from the scene? Shouldn't those pictures show the severity of the crash?
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:11 pm to baldona
Here's mine
quote:
1. Smith drove drunk and rear ends Hayes, left scene 2. Hayes was pissed and chased 3. Hayes peeved off catches up to and rear ends Smith unintentionally 4. Passenger with Smith gets out of car, rips off shirt, wants to fight Hayes 5. Hayes gets out of car 6. Raquel Smith reaches for gun out of glove box, Will fights him, Smith's gun goes off shooting wife in leg on accident 7. Hayes thinks Smith is shooting at him, Hayes kills Smith
Posted on 5/31/16 at 3:11 pm to Nado Jenkins83
Says the guy who didn't read the link in the op
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